Mire Vs Dark Daggers

[Roasting]

I know both are apparently bad,but I want to be able to gain energy, through the syndicate mod and these are the only melee weps that give energy I also want to use Corrosive Proj over energy siph. But which of the two would be considered better? 

Mire Vs Kestrel Vs Dark Dagger just updated.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Roasting

[OniGanon]

The ability to get counterattack finishers is a damn big deal when you're 30 minutes into a Survival.

 

Using my Mire, I can kill a Lv60 Corrupted Bombard/Heavy Gunner in one combo, due to the finisher.

[--.B.--HARDCOREDAVE-]

I personally like dark dagger for the innate radiation elemental damage it does as it has its CC uses plus moderately high status chance also its normal pointed wind stance has reliable strikes if you want to be able to gain energy use the kestrel with suda augment as entropy replenishes energy.

[(PSN)IIIDevoidIII]

I'd say Mire for damage/ utility and Dark Dagger for CC/ Utility.

With the Mire, I can achieve a rough 4k hit.

[Lorthos_Mornin]

Totally depends on what you like.  The Mire is a sword so it can use the crimson dervish stance if that's a factor.  However, it's syndicate mod assumes you will always use toxin on your build.  Daggers, in my opinion, are harder to use because of the short range, but the dark dagger is innately radiation which allows for some interesting elemental combinations.  Daggers are also pretty good at coptering.

[Roasting]

OO Actually yes I want to include Kestrel in this as well didn't know it was a melee wep. Dunno why I considered it a secondary, so Kestel vs Mire vs Dark Dagger. Still based more off which is better of the 3, not which gives the most energy.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Roasting

[OverpoweredRamen]

I use dark dagger because it looks cool, and it's fast for coptering :3 but I could see the kestrel being good as well

[Otenko]

I personally use Dark Dagger the most, mainly for the status chance which is decent.

 

I slotted it for Blast and Electricity, so enemies usually get knocked down or stunned (or Radiation'd). However, it is not a damaging weapon. Pointed Wind is a very fast stance with ostensibly good damage modifiers (does much more damage than unequipped melee attacks), but the spin attacks and regular melee attacks don't kill much.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Otenko

[Cynick]

Kestrel is by far the most useful, if you are including it. One of the few melee weapons which scales endlessly. 

[Roasting]

Thanks for the input! also which mods would you recommend for it?

[Stardrinker]

Mire can use Crimson Dervish, for most people that's all the information they need.

[OniGanon]

Mire because it can use Dervish and its syndicate mod is also a damage mod.

[Roasting]

So, Mire is better then Dark Dagger / Kestrel?

[OniGanon]

Yes.

 

Crimson Dervish is ridiculous. Not only does it have massive 300% multipliers on its basic combo, but another combo chains into a Counterattack Finisher, which deals massive damage that ignores armour.

[Darzk]

Personal Preference:

 

Mire does better damage than Dark Dagger.

 

Dark Dagger has a more useful proc than Mire, and farther copter. Edit: The stance polarity sucks. Badly.

 

Kestrel has a ranged knockdown, the ability to AoE with it (at range), ability to self nuke, and ranged Life Strike.

Edit: But the synd effect isn't as good, imo; increased energy cap and magnetic proc < increased speed and Viral.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Darzk

[Roasting]

Darzk i cant tell which of the 3 you prefer lol

[Darzk]

Darzk i cant tell which of the 3 you prefer lol

Kinda the point - it's gonna boil down to personal preference; one is not 'better' than the others, really, they just fill different niches.

[Roasting]

That settled it thanks for all the advice guys ! Going with mire.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Roasting

[OniGanon]

In the interest of full disclosure, I should probably mention it only juuuust kills that Heavy Gunner.

 

Steel Charge, Crimson Dervish, Pressure Point, Spoiled Strike, Fury, Lifestrike R0, Toxic Blight, Fever Strike, Shocking Touch, Finishing Touch