EvilReFlex Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 ...pain in the &#! for small Clans! We have a small clan, only friends and the build cost are extreme. And the need of Formas makes it pay or die for us. DE, nerf the Dojo Costs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper62 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Agreed. The cost is way too high for small clans. But then again, they want us to spend real world cash which is kinda BS IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probta16 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Agreed. The cost is way too high for small clans. But then again, they want us to spend real world cash which is kinda BS IMO. Hard to be sure of this. The dojo still in it first version so it will change eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilReFlex Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 First I will leave Warframe before I spend Money in the @(*()$ dojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitani Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 ...pain in the &#! for small Clans! We have a small clan, only friends and the build cost are extreme. And the need of Formas makes it pay or die for us. DE, nerf the Dojo Costs!!! i agree with him, there needs to be a cost reduction depending on clan size. might make it by implementing percentage? depending on what the basic big clan is and go down in cost with how small the clan is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncommonUnicorn Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Agreed. The cost is way too high for small clans. But then again, they want us to spend real world cash which is kinda BS IMO. And no amount of cash will help unless they add common/uncommon/rare resources to the market. Really, how many of the "small" clans can honestly afford to grind: 455.000 Salvage 240.000 Nano Spores 175.000 Circuits 175.000 Polymer Bundles 70.000 Ferrite 15.000 Alloy Plate (least of your worries, afaik) And that's for the most basic requirements to do all the research, I think. Two connectors (× ones for the sake of efficiency), a reactor, an oracle, and one of each lab. Assuming that each lab doesn't require its own oracle. i agree with him, there needs to be a cost reduction depending on clan size. might make it by implementing percentage? depending on what the basic big clan is and go down in cost with how small the clan is? Too easy to abuse, afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFkenny Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Agreed. Dojo building cost is very high. It should be a big undertaking, but I'd love to make a dojo either by myself or with a small entourage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaban Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) Suggestion. Base resources to start the build, additional resources to reduce build time. Example, 10000 salvage to start the section at 6 days to completion. Additional 60000 salvage/ferrite/alloy and plat can be contributed by teammates to reduce build time to the standard 12/24 hours or less. What it means is big clans can build dojos as fast as the current implement with their massive resources available. Small clans can wait for their builds to finish slowly, yet still being able to start the build (which actually makes sense; more people build faster, less people build slower, and even 1 person can start building). Same goes for research. Solo players can expect to wait 2 weeks just to get a reactor up. Edited May 25, 2013 by Artaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikage Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 And no amount of cash will help unless they add common/uncommon/rare resources to the market. Really, how many of the "small" clans can honestly afford to grind: 455.000 Salvage 240.000 Nano Spores 175.000 Circuits 175.000 Polymer Bundles 70.000 Ferrite 15.000 Alloy Plate (least of your worries, afaik) And that's for the most basic requirements to do all the research, I think. Two connectors (× ones for the sake of efficiency), a reactor, an oracle, and one of each lab. Assuming that each lab doesn't require its own oracle. Too easy to abuse, afaik. Forgot dem formas there bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncommonUnicorn Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Forgot dem formas there bro And those are the least of your worries since they can always be bought with platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzAlex Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 i agree, im in a small clan too and farming all those mats... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalus Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 In the same position essentially. I want a dojo for our small cadre of players and not have to grind for so much materials x.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitani Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 And no amount of cash will help unless they add common/uncommon/rare resources to the market. Really, how many of the "small" clans can honestly afford to grind: 455.000 Salvage 240.000 Nano Spores 175.000 Circuits 175.000 Polymer Bundles 70.000 Ferrite 15.000 Alloy Plate (least of your worries, afaik) And that's for the most basic requirements to do all the research, I think. Two connectors (× ones for the sake of efficiency), a reactor, an oracle, and one of each lab. Assuming that each lab doesn't require its own oracle. Quote Too easy to abuse, afaik.i agree with him, there needs to be a cost reduction depending on clan size. might make it by implementing percentage? depending on what the basic big clan is and go down in cost with how small the clan is? true the above might be easy to abuse, but it was a sugestion rather then just an endless rant. the quote below would make more sence. Suggestion. Base resources to start the build, additional resources to reduce build time. Example, 10000 salvage to start the section at 6 days to completion. Additional 60000 salvage/ferrite/alloy and plat can be contributed by teammates to reduce build time to the standard 12/24 hours or less. What it means is big clans can build dojos as fast as the current implement with their massive resources available. Small clans can wait for their builds to finish slowly, yet still being able to start the build (which actually makes sense; more people build faster, less people build slower, and even 1 person can start building). Same goes for research. Solo players can expect to wait 2 weeks just to get a reactor up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordAxeMace Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Gotta agree with this, currently its just me and one friend in our clan, (if you can call two people a clan) and we decided to start off with a cross corridor, both of us pooled our resources into it and now its sitting at 40%, I have a feeling it will stay at 40% for quite a while. So that's our clans situation and I feel like there should be some compensation for clan size, I mean, even with 20 people in a clan (which I assume we will have, everybody is just finishing there semester finals now), which I believe is a good size of friends etc. it's nowhere near the size of Warframes biggest clans, who probably have quite sizable dojos compared to the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThexDLolNoob Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Three player clan here. One of us already jumped to a larger clan, and we're currently progressing about a percent per day (at 44% atm). Something has to be done, I'm afraid that one day I'll find to be alone in the clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralBlader Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 All of those small clans are spamming in the global chat that they are searching for members, just because they need more sources to get the resources faster. It´s a bit anoying, because i cant anymore chat in this lobby v.v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitani Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 for the chat in loby might need to make a clan advert channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetSlaanesh Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) And no amount of cash will help unless they add common/uncommon/rare resources to the market. Really, how many of the "small" clans can honestly afford to grind: 455.000 Salvage 240.000 Nano Spores 175.000 Circuits 175.000 Polymer Bundles 70.000 Ferrite 15.000 Alloy Plate (least of your worries, afaik) And that's for the most basic requirements to do all the research, I think. Two connectors (× ones for the sake of efficiency), a reactor, an oracle, and one of each lab. Assuming that each lab doesn't require its own oracle. Too easy to abuse, afaik. So, 90 forma. Pretty much unattainable for all but the hugest of clans. Edited May 29, 2013 by SweetSlaanesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatHunter Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 correct me, but the smallest setup I can think of will be 2 cross connectors, the reactor, the oracle and the 3 labs, wouldn't make this 75 Forma? still this is 1500 Plat if you buy them, way too much for a clan <10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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