[Solved] 90% Damage Elemental Mod Behaviour

[Zodokhan]

Hi Tenno, 

i got a question for you. If i understand well, the way chilling grasp mod works is

(Impact + puncture + slash) x 0,9 = cold damage

For veykor Hek (78.8+341.3+105)x0.9 = 472.5 this is ok

With Point Blank : (196.4+850.8+261.8)x0.9=1178.1 still ok

But with breach loader : (78.8+750.8+105)x0.9 = 841.14 not 472.5 

 

 

I dont understand, can u explain why ?

Edited January 12, 2016 by Zodokhan

[Owlrrex]

There're multiple "paths" in the hirarchy of mods scaling off each other:

         Base Damage+BaseDamageMods

                                  |

               +-------------+-----------+

               |                                  |

     All Elemental Mods          Physical Mods

               |                                  |

               +-------------+-----------+

                                  |

                  Faction Damage Bonus

                                  |

                     Defense Modifiers

 

In this diagram, bonus on different levels get multiplied, and on the same level are additive. So +50% Fire and +60% Puncture result in a total +110%(100*(0.5+0.6)) Damage, but +50% Base and +60% Fire result in 240% total damage. (100*0.5*0.6)
That's why Base Damage and Race mods are so incredible strong: Because they affect all other damage mods multiplicatively. 

[Naftal]

Elemental mods give you damage based on a percentage of your base damage. This includes base damage and +damage mods.

 

Physical damage (IPS) mods give you damage based on a percentage of THAT damage type in your base damage.

 

IPS mods do not increase the base damage where elementals are calculated. They just behave like crappy elemental mods.

[Kthal]

Breach Loader increases just the Puncture damage, and scales with Point Blank.

 

Chilling Grasp scales with Point Blank, but not Breach Loader.

[PickleMonster21]

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So to (attempt to) simplify what these guys are saying, Breach Loader increases Puncture Damage. Chilling Grasp scales from the BASE (+Point Blank and Blaze) damage, not the total of Impact, Puncture and Slash, much like how Physique (+18% Health Aura mod) scales off BASE health, so Vitality doesn't affect it.

Hope this somewhat helps.

[Zodokhan]

Thx for explanations tennos

 

Thx a lot