(PSN)horridhal Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, EmptyDevil said: Rhino and Guts do not have the same frame. Atlas would be closer if his neck wasn't so buff. You have to be kidding. Guts was a huge person who carried around a huge sword and was able to take a beating. That is Rhino with a huge weapon. Exact same. 1 minute ago, (PS4)ImmaTrueSpartan said: No he's not he don't have a cannon or a berserk power like Valkyr i think they got her powerpassive from his armer when he actives it. You neglect that for a long time Guts didn't have the hand cannon, either. Rhino has Roar, which is a much more Guts like skill than anything else in the game right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)horridhal Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, EmptyDevil said: Wow, this new forum layout really stinks when it comes to removing quotes and double posts. This is the best I can do here. Sorry. Edited March 10, 2016 by (PS4)horridhal Annoying new forum layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnaga Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Anyways, I think Clare would kick the hell out of Guts in her true form :) http://i.imgur.com/BSMxqrY.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadenFall Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, (PS4)horridhal said: You neglect that for a long time Guts didn't have the hand cannon, either. Rhino has Roar, which is a much more Guts like skill than anything else in the game right now. Well, that's debatable. For a majority of Gut's life he did have a hand, however a majority of the story that is told, he does have a cannon and is a defining feature of him now. The missing eye and hand are apart of his character just as the huge sword. 4 minutes ago, carnaga said: Anyways, I think Clare would kick the hell out of Guts in her true form :) http://i.imgur.com/BSMxqrY.jpg Alright, I have to watch Claymore, but have you watched Berserk? You can't take Guts lightly, he has killed actual gods, and not even when he is at his peak strength. Edited March 10, 2016 by CadenFall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)horridhal Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, CadenFall said: Well, that's debatable. For a majority of Gut's life he did have a hand, however a majority of the story that is told, he does have a cannon and is a defining feature of him now. The missing eye and hand are apart of his character just as the huge sword. It depends entirely on which story you follow for it. The anime, which is the most likely thing people will have viewed, depicted him as having the cannon for only a couple of scenes. The things I mentioned are simply part of the character regardless of the adaptation. The missing eye and the hand aren't parts of the character for anyone who doesn't follow the Manga. That said, my comment remains. The defining characteristics of Guts were his ability to take a beating, the huge sword, the scar on his nose, his attitude, and his anger. Rhino fits the bill on all those fronts, except the nose scar, when equipped with a heavy blade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnaga Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, CadenFall said: Alright, I have to watch Claymore, but have you watched Berserk? You can't take Guts lightly, he has killed actual gods, and not even when he is at his peak strength. I've been reading the manga a-bit - not that much and far thought. So I must apologize that I don't know him that well. No idea about the chronological order of the story from where I started but I got to that part where he severs his arm off to get free from the demon. Tough guy - have to admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, (PS4)horridhal said: You have to be kidding. Guts was a huge person who carried around a huge sword and was able to take a beating. That is Rhino with a huge weapon. Exact same. Do not neglect a keyword in my statement when replying. I said: "Rhino and Guts do not have the same frame." This means that they are different in terms of their build/body. Atlas is closer because Guts isn't stocky like Rhino. Guts is tall, very muscular, and not stocky like Atlas. So it is not the exact same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadenFall Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, (PS4)horridhal said: It depends entirely on which story you follow for it. The anime, which is the most likely thing people will have viewed, depicted him as having the cannon for only a couple of scenes. The things I mentioned are simply part of the character regardless of the adaptation. The missing eye and the hand aren't parts of the character for anyone who doesn't follow the Manga. That said, my comment remains. The defining characteristics of Guts were his ability to take a beating, the huge sword, the scar on his nose, his attitude, and his anger. Rhino fits the bill on all those fronts, except the nose scar, when equipped with a heavy blade . Alright, you got a point there. 7 minutes ago, carnaga said: I've been reading the manga a-bit - not that much and far thought. So I must apologize that I don't know him that well. No idea about the chronological order of the story from where I started but I got to that part where he severs his arm off to get free from the demon. Tough guy - have to admit. Oh yeah, that's still the Prologue. He has massive amounts of character development and gains tremendous power. I don't want to spoil too much, but he even gets fast enough to start dodging lightning strikes. Now before I go to far off topic. God I really do hope DE puts in a werewolf frame. Edited March 10, 2016 by CadenFall remove extra pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)horridhal Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, EmptyDevil said: Do not neglect a keyword in my statement when replying. I said: "Rhino and Guts do not have the same frame." This means that they are different in terms of their build/body. Atlas is closer because Guts isn't stocky like Rhino. Guts is tall, very muscular, and not stocky like Atlas. So it is not the exact same. Except they aren't different in terms of their build. Guts was a big guy, much bigger than most of the other characters in that anime. Rhino is big in exactly the same way. Guts then Rhino comparison pics : Spoiler Spoiler Same body type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadenFall Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I got to admit that I agree with Empty Devil. I think Guts would match Atlas more. I feel like Pipin would be the Rhino. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teardanos Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Wow, i was just thinking about THIS when started the PC tactical alert thousand cuts. Please DE make magic happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 No, I don't really want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revel72 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I just want that sword and go slam things in to pieces with it. Because. Zweihander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellmaker2004 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, carnaga said: Anyways, I think Clare would kick the hell out of Guts in her true form :) http://i.imgur.com/BSMxqrY.jpg All that beast reminds me of is the pure and awesome emotion a certain individual goes trough whenever someone tells him there life story. Dude on the left is totaly impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)horridhal said: Except they aren't different in terms of their build. Guts was a big guy, much bigger than most of the other characters in that anime. Rhino is big in exactly the same way. Guts then Rhino comparison pics : Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Same body type. No, they are different from each other. Them being bigger than most other characters, isn't an argument for them having the same exact build(Atlas is bigger than Rhino anyway). Guts and Atlas: Spoiler Ignore the small character in this image - the focus is Guts having a tall, very muscular, but also slender build. Spoiler The only difference in them is the massive neck and shoulder muscles of Atlas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnaga Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Hellmaker2004 said: All that beast reminds me of is the pure and awesome emotion a certain individual goes trough whenever someone tells him there life story. Dude on the left is totaly impressed. That thing has a word and it's "underestimate" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)horridhal Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, EmptyDevil said: The only difference in them is the massive neck and shoulder muscles of Atlas. You picked a specific image where Guts looks thinner than he normally does. In most of the drawings, he has a pretty square form rather than the super slim middle in the pic you posted. Other pics of Guts from manga : Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler In the vast majority of drawings of Guts, his middle isn't as slim as the one in the pic you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, (PS4)horridhal said: You picked a specific image where Guts looks thinner than he normally does. In most of the drawings, he has a pretty square form rather than the super slim middle in the pic you posted. Other pics of Guts from manga : Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents In the vast majority of drawings of Guts, his middle isn't as slim as the one in the pic you posted. I actually grabbed a random picture. Your second picture reinforces my statement and the first one is at an angle that makes him look wider. Feel free to hold onto your opinion, i am not interested in debating his build further, even though we could pull numerous pictures depicting his build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah Berserk jumps back and forth through time, especially if you just watch the various anime incarnations that tend to pick just one or two arcs. 1 hour ago, carnaga said: Thought to be honest, I would take Clare over Guts. A frame based on detection, avoidance, and counters? That's something that could be neat to see. Some fighting-game-style moves where you get in a counter position and then deflect the next attack in that timeframe could be cool to use, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ImmaTrueSpartan Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 hours ago, carnaga said: Anyways, I think Clare would kick the hell out of Guts in her true form :) http://i.imgur.com/BSMxqrY.jpg Dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ImmaTrueSpartan Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 What are u guys arguing about everyone u showed compared to Guts looks like a bodybuilder jux like guts theres alot of people with the same build. He's only human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ImmaTrueSpartan Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Whould u stop talking about Clare this is about Guts they aint even in the same anime. Edited March 10, 2016 by (PS4)ImmaTrueSpartan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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