Dessfar Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ash is the most expensive warframe and even though i built him, he should be worth the 375 platinum. I was waiting for a boost and then you nerfed his speed, the only defining characteristic? I think armour as well maybe? Most expensive should mean best so at least give him an extra 25 shields and give him back his speed. Saying he's built for stealth is no good at the moment as stealth is no good at stealth! Maybe when that's fixed you can nerf him but until then as most expensive he should be good at the only current play-style: open combat. His powers arn't great so why bad stats too. TL;DR- He's expensive, make him good not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldark Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Expensive things aren't always the best. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccolli1500 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 He has a point though. A stealth warframe is inherently fast. Ash and Loki are comparable, and Loki is the fastest in the game. Nerfing Ash's speed, as well as his shields, are just going to give players a reason to switch to Loki, or maybe even Volt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeatH-ReapeR Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 ash is still better xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramet Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I haven't noticed any changes to Ash except they increased the number of kills his Bladestorm can kill at max rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibbahjabbah Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) What?! When did they nerf his speed? That was half the fun of playing ash. Why you do this DE?! Yeah, I just did a quick boss run with Ash and didn't notice a difference. Want to feel the fool? Take people on the internet at their word... Edited July 9, 2013 by jibbahjabbah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Pinger Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 If he's been nurfed, I certainly don't see it. Ash is my boss farmer, which has a easier time killing and getting to the boss and out again if anything good drops. I've just got to remember to fill his power for smoke screen for the boss fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Expensive things aren't always the best. Deal with it. And Ash is only good to run. He's broken atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PettiTheYeti Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ash is superior to Loki in the survival department, and is still faster than Excalibur. I think he's well balanced between the two right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I still love my Ash, good or bad. It's all about aesthetics for me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibbahjabbah Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 And Ash is only good to run. He's broken atm Ash is the best for lone wolfing it. He's also the most fun frame I've played. You want to feel like a ninja? Ash is your only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ash is the best for lone wolfing it. He's also the most fun frame I've played. You want to feel like a ninja? Ash is your only option. Nah there is Loki as well. Not saying that Ash is bad, I just consider Loki superior. But still Ash still needs work on his more then broken Ult and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibbahjabbah Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Nah there is Loki as well. Not saying that Ash is bad, I just consider Loki superior. But still Ash still needs work on his more then broken Ult and all that. Loki is more spy than ninja. Ash is a silent assassin where as Loki is master of misdirection. I will agree though ash's ult could use some work with the targeting and wonky animation but otherwise he's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 the only thing this post reminded me is why the hell does one warframe cost more than other? it doesnt make sense. it´s like DE is shouting how unbalanced the game is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstalri Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) If you are reffering to the numbers on the wiki, then: "Can't believe at all those people who are nuts , The 1.0 , 1.6 , 1.4 sprint speed just came out from someone's &#!..." You are referring to my &#!. Dear Mr. Anonymous, those numbers did not come out from my &#!. I did some "research" which you can see here. But i must confess i was wrong and sorry for that. 14 days ago by Imargam From the comments on Ash on the Warframe Wiki. And I still have no idea where the new values came from. Edited July 9, 2013 by lstalri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibbahjabbah Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 the only thing this post reminded me is why the hell does one warframe cost more than other? it doesnt make sense. it´s like DE is shouting how unbalanced the game is. Demand is higher for some frames so they charge more for them. Basic economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Expensive things aren't always the best. Deal with it. Don't bother posting if you're going to say useless stuff like that. Everyone else, valid points. In my opinion ash is not as good as frost or volt but is better than loki. But he should be as good as those two, and volt is op especially as he is so cheap. Edit: Haha just saw the whiny little S#&$ comment thanks for being mature and respecting my opinion. Sorry it appears his speed wasn't nerfed, i was lied too -_- I still maintain he needs a boost. Edited July 9, 2013 by Dessfar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Loki is more spy than ninja. Ash is a silent assassin where as Loki is master of misdirection. I will agree though ash's ult could use some work with the targeting and wonky animation but otherwise he's great. Yea they both go invisible and all, both get damage boost from being invisible while Loki's ult is to disarm foes like the Grineer and Corpus Ash goes on a blade ra** with a ridiculous screen and angle. Their both good (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 If you are reffering to the numbers on the wiki, then: "Can't believe at all those people who are nuts , The 1.0 , 1.6 , 1.4 sprint speed just came out from someone's &#!..." You are referring to my &#!. Dear Mr. Anonymous, those numbers did not come out from my &#!. I did some "research" which you can see here. But i must confess i was wrong and sorry for that. 14 days ago by Imargam From the comments on Ash on the Warframe Wiki. And I still have no idea where the new values came from. Oh right. That's why i thought it was nerfed and why others had posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstalri Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 by the way, that "14 days ago" thing is a link updated on the comments thread, but since I copypasta'd it, that won't update, so in a year from now, it'll still say that was 14 days ago. Just for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 His speed hasn't changed. Blade storm wigs out if you lag from my experience. I play Ash and use it all the time, I've had it gone haywire about 5-7 times and during those times my connection to the host or my own internet was being fuzzy. Could it be better to not bug out? Yes please fix it DE. Is it as bad as people make it seem? No not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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