Possible bans?

[ShadowofAion]

So I live in a house with my 2 friends, we all play Warframe and like it a lot. I heard from a veteran player that we should NOT do trades that involve platinum with each other, his reasoning was that people on the same IP apparently have used multiple accounts to try and farm platinum discounts then trade the platinum to each other which is obviously frowned upon by DE.

My question is "Can I do trades for platinum with my friends I live with if it is of a reasonable nature & non-malicious??" I.E. (Selling them a Helios Prime set for 60P.) I'm asking here because I have no idea how to ask DE this question directly.

[redeyedtreefrog]

well, I'm not privy to the algorithm DE uses to detect behaviors like this, or if they even use an algorithm, but I find it likely that it would place less suspicion on account sets the older they are. If it's fully automated, then it would likely also look at playtimes/overall activity, since an alt would obviously not need gear or such things if it was being used exclusively for platinum farming. Not to mention, since it's likely that the player doing this will use the same credit card for every account, it probably looks at that too.

In essence, any of these things would lower any suspicion generated by an algorithm or by a human being quite a lot:

The accounts having different credit cards used in platinum purchases.

The accounts all being active at the same time, and for more than just a few minutes a day.

The accounts all having high playtime/age/being appropriately geared.

Not sure how hard this is to track, but if you all do missions in the same squad, that increases the credibility that you're separate human beings.

It's also worth noting that if you do mutually benificial trades, it's not nearly as suspicious as trading, say, 1000 platinum for a thumper mod.

 

And, if you do get banned for suspicion of being alts, contacting support would likely resolve the issue. 

so the tl;dr is: yes. Trade away.

[(XBOX)CFE KOS MOS]

Not really sure.... Maybe? You'll have to talk to someone about that. Maybe ask someone like STINKYTAILSRUS. 

[Seindrache]

I'm pretty sure you're fine, they wouldn't have included different port options in the game for the sake of lan parties if they'd ban people for it

[ShadowofAion]

2 minutes ago, Seindrache said:

I'm pretty sure you're fine, they wouldn't have included different port options in the game for the sake of lan parties if they'd ban people for it

Yea, I guess that makes sense. I would assume they'd look at the accounts involved to see if it was actually suspicious.

[Seindrache]

also, from the terms of use:

The creation of alternate accounts will be handled on a case by case basis, and we reserve the right to remove accounts used to circumvent any form of restrictions to the game or the Service including the official Warframe forums.

so, you should be fine

Edited May 18, 2017 by Seindrache
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[S0VEREIGNSK]

I am really upset when it comes to selling platinum for real money and they don't bought in officialy from DE. It's like man, u ruin the game you have played

[ShadowofAion]

3 minutes ago, redeyedtreefrog said:

well, I'm not privy to the algorithm DE uses to detect behaviors like this, or if they even use an algorithm, but I find it likely that it would place less suspicion on account sets the older they are. If it's fully automated, then it would likely also look at playtimes/overall activity, since an alt would obviously not need gear or such things if it was being used exclusively for platinum farming. Not to mention, since it's likely that the player doing this will use the same credit card for every account, it probably looks at that too.

In essence, any of these things would lower any suspicion generated by an algorithm or by a human being quite a lot:

The accounts having different credit cards used in platinum purchases.

The accounts all being active at the same time, and for more than just a few minutes a day.

The accounts all having high playtime/age/being appropriately geared.

Not sure how hard this is to track, but if you all do missions in the same squad, that increases the credibility that you're separate human beings.

It's also worth noting that if you do mutually benificial trades, it's not nearly as suspicious as trading, say, 1000 platinum for a thumper mod.

 

And, if you do get banned for suspicion of being alts, contacting support would likely resolve the issue. 

so the tl;dr is: yes. Trade away.

Thank you very much, that makes me feel a bit better about potentially trading with them in the future. :)

[ShadowofAion]

Just now, System.Lord.Ra said:

I am really upset when it comes to selling platinum for real money and they don't bought in officialy from DE. It's like man, u ruin the game you have played

What do you mean?

[(XBOX)SentientOmega0]

If it is not getting a new account after new account then its fine

[S0VEREIGNSK]

Just now, ShadowofAion said:

What do you mean?

What i mean it's really okay if you trade platinum that you bought from DE for whatever reasons except selling it for real money. 

[ShadowofAion]

Oh I think I get it, I didn't think about it that way. I guess the platinum discount farming could be sold to other players besides the initial abuser.