ApocDream Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Frost is the only frame that is straight up mandatory for T3 d. Everything else you can mix and match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banelight Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Vauban for Infested. Frost for Grineer/Corpus. Remember, Snow Globe eats bullets. Vauban's anti-grav whatever doesn't. exactly! The vaubans bastille is awsome at crowd controlling a bunch of mobs in one space....frost bubble however defends against range mobs (grineer/corpus) giving team time to clear them. I also LOVE my Frost and Frost prime....they are definately not a lost cause. Even skills 1 and 2 are very useful when used in right situation. Wave clears a group of charging mobs very well, while a well placed freeze on a knock down corpus / grineer/ or boss is super useful. However some new skills will make it more interesting....or maybe dont make so many bosses so resistant to his freeze. Frost is one of the only frames that can easliy solo just about any boss as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Frost works against 3 out of 4 factions (Corrupted, Grineer and Corpus). So is Vauban more useless ? Don't play frost on Xini, play him on Narcissus, Varro and Outer Terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truci4 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Yeah Frost is fine however i think he could do for a damage buff of some kind so he's not ENTIRELY utility (which got nerfed, revert that) and defense. A damage buff would be so bad ... ultra bad. A frost can kill nearly everyone with an ice wave on pvp. Just op, instakill at the start of every round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnivar Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 A damage buff would be so bad ... ultra bad. A frost can kill nearly everyone with an ice wave on pvp. Just op, instakill at the start of every round This game should NOT be balanced around pvp; at the moment it is just something fun to do in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoMonkey Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 T3 Void Defense pretty much requires both Frost and Vauban, no exceptions. Frost is irreplacable and completely unparalleled at what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godila2 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 1 for power ice spike, it would be like ash shuruken, but only one would be throwed, maybe it would debuff enemy which would make it bleed or slow it or like people suggesting aoe 4 power radial freeze it would be something like rihino stomp, but it would freeze everyone in radius for 3/5/7 sec, and damage it something like 500/750/1000 other one's is good they do a job, maybe ice wave would be more wider and maybe it would freeze smaller enemy, ice globe is good it never was bad it get job done maybe if it would be moved to 4 it would be same, but it would not let enemy come in, enemy which would be inside when casted freeze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andboomgoestheydynamite Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Frost's Snowglobe is OP, clearing enemy fire, boss DPS, etc. You probably just don't pick the right enemies. Let Vauban take care of Infested, you take care of Corpus/Grineer. Frost is OP ( :( ), just learn how and when to use it :) Plus, nobody plays Volt anymore xD Snowglobe took him out of need, just as well as Nova's Wormhole Frost is op? I don't believe you noticed rhino or ember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurinaga Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I don't think the purpose of the OP was to say "snow globe sucks compared to Bastille" but to point out the fact that vauban has more than Bastille in his CC tool kit to deal with enemies (ex. vortex). As I stated in another thread, I would like to see frost's skills geared more toward crowd control than outright damage. Give freeze an AOE radius and take away the break when shooting frozen enemies. Make Ice wave a Cone AOE instead of a line; make the slow last significantly longer. Give Avalanche a slight damage buff and a lasting freeze for any enemies that survive the damage. Those changes would turn Frost into the CC machine he was meant to be. Indeed, everything except Snow Globe is useless (any survivors of Ice Wave or Avalanche make it a waste of energy) which is why I've shelved my Frost until he gets his long-overdue buff (which is, annoyingly, also the time that I finally got the Frost Prime Systems blueprint!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dussack Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 who cares if people don't want to xini with you in a frost, it's easy enough to solo. I use stretch for it and the infested come up to my globe then stop leaving me plenty of time to either use orthos or jump attacks with reaper prime. the ancients are so slow their attacks become a joke and in the large globe i have plenty of space to take them down with despair. If you are doing it to see how high a wave you can get to then that's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnivar Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 who cares if people don't want to xini with you in a frost, it's easy enough to solo. I use stretch for it and the infested come up to my globe then stop leaving me plenty of time to either use orthos or jump attacks with reaper prime. the ancients are so slow their attacks become a joke and in the large globe i have plenty of space to take them down with despair. If you are doing it to see how high a wave you can get to then that's a different story. The point of the OP is saying that currently snow globe is frost's only good ability; so you are basically solidifying that point by not mentioning any other skills that you use in conjunction with snow globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dussack Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 The point of the OP is saying that currently snow globe is frost's only good ability; so you are basically solidifying that point by not mentioning any other skills that you use in conjunction with snow globe. i use freeze on solo boss runs and avalanche if I get swarmed (sometimes takes a couple) ice wave is a waste of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3raph Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 There are 2 other factions in the game, besides the Infested and Frost outclasses Vauban against both of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skathes Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 only question i have is... why is ice always stereotyped as defense in almost everything? being frozen could act as a small DoT like hypothermia. and ice spear/lance/bolt anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoShoes Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Yep, Frost and Vauban are best buddies in defence (non infested). If they added some sort of ranged monster to infested enemies then Frost would have more purpose again, but as of now Vauban is king of Xini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumra Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 WhiteCopain Don't feel bad, I have a Vauban and trust me I feel safer when a Frost is on my team. On later waves both defenses are absolutely necessary, specially when energy starts running low. If a teammate takes an unexpected dive, you throw an ice globe on them and revive. It may seem your job is being taken away but in a way it is better, I have seen many frosties that get bored of sitting around on the pod. This gives you a chance to move around a bit more and become a bit more offensive as well as Defensive and in Grineer/Corpus missions and T2/T3 defense your skills are a must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhak Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Your job is to use snowglobe repeatedly and indefinitely until victory is achieved, occasionally shooting things from inside the globe as the game progresses. This job is still in high demand for defense missions. The job market is wide open. What do you mean you feel out of a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haids Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Eh, only thing I'd change is Frost not being a one trick pony by making his 1 an actually pretty useful utility (they could also make his ult freeze enemies AFTER the animation like it does in the Dojo for like 5 seconds, would fit the name "Avalanche" ever so slightly more) Edited July 24, 2013 by Haids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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