Bring Back The Kogake Uppercut Move!

[Dessfar]

The new flip one is awful! It's very hard to hit, the enemies fly off in the wrong direction and you can't use it mid-air to get further!  Also, it looks pretty bad in my opinion.

[Fundance]

No, I really like the flip. It just needs to have a wider hitbox and it'll be fine. Kogake is all about style, so an acrobatic move like that just works so well.

Kogake flip actually has 2 hitboxes - one on the actual kick and one on the landing. The second hitbox will still knock enemies down but does negligible damage. That's very interesting and pretty forgivable if you misplace the attack, since you can still capitalise off the knockdown even if you missed. A single hit uppercut won't do that.

 

One thing that I feel really needs to be changed though, is the inability to ground attack targets who have been launched by the dash attack or charge attack.

[Dessfar]

I totally disagree, i think it looks stupid.  But your right about the ground attack on targets who have been knocked down.

 

No, I really like the flip. It just needs to have a wider hitbox and it'll be fine. Kogake is all about style, so an acrobatic move like that just works so well.

Kogake flip actually has 2 hitboxes - one on the actual kick and one on the landing. The second hitbox will still knock enemies down but does negligible damage. That's very interesting and pretty forgivable if you misplace the attack, since you can still capitalise off the knockdown even if you missed. A single hit uppercut won't do that.

 

One thing that I feel really needs to be changed though, is the inability to ground attack targets who have been launched by the dash attack or charge attack.

[Zoike]

if u want upper cut get furax/anykros

[RunaCarbuncle]

Yeah there are weapons witht he shoryuken just use those!

[theammostore]

I prefer the flip. It's a nice change from the uppercuts. When I saw it in the weapon trailer, I thought it was awesome, then I was disappointed by how it wasn't in game originally. It had to be patched in.

[JadsiaDax]

Furax and Kogake based weapons should have a 'combo' charge attack. Would make them feel 1000x more badass if you could pummel your enemies without needing to get them on the ground. Or a grapple attack ;d

[Venarge]

Also, it looks pretty bad in my opinion.

Oh yeah. I mean. If its your opinion, it should definitly be changed....

 

Use the other gauntlet weapons if you want to use uppercut.

 

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[Keetsune]

Use the other gauntlet weapons if you want to use uppercut.

Every gauntlet should have that move, there is no logical point to remove that move from certain gauntlet weapons ... But wait, what i'm fkn talking about ... this game is lost most of the logic long time ago.

[Venarge]

Every gauntlet should have that move, there is no logical point to remove that move from certain gauntlet weapons ... But wait, what i'm fkn talking about ... this game is lost most of the logic long time ago.

Why should a weapon that is specialized for martials arts only use fist moves? Why shouldnt fist only weapons not only use it? Please. Explain....

[-Kittens-]

The axe flip is awesome and has far FAR more utility than the spinning shoryuken.

[Keetsune]

Why should a weapon that is specialized for martials arts only use fist moves? Why shouldnt fist only weapons not only use it? Please. Explain....

If you explain a logical reason why i can't use uppercut with Gauntlets?

[Venarge]

If you explain a logical reason why i can't use uppercut with Gauntlets?

They already said that they are going to add more variety for different weapon so they might add your so beloved uppercut.

Besides that. The weapons could focus on kicking and only support your defense via gauntlets. There are enough reasons to not use the uppercut.....

[theammostore]

Every gauntlet should have that move, there is no logical point to remove that move from certain gauntlet weapons ... But wait, what i'm fkn talking about ... this game is lost most of the logic long time ago.

If you explain a logical reason why i can't use uppercut with Gauntlets?

 

Because the Kogake is not just gauntlets, it's also some foot coverings as well. And we have two other gauntlet weapons that already to the uppercut. The Kogake can, it's not like it's forbidden by law, but the Kogake also features the use of your feet. It should reflect that by being different in animations. It's pretty much the same effect, enemy flies upwards, only it looks different.

[Dasmir]

Get ankyros if you want shoryukens.

[Dessfar]

Oh yeah. I mean. If its your opinion, it should definitly be changed....

 

Use the other gauntlet weapons if you want to use uppercut.

 

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Hey A******, if everyone else likes the flip then they shouldn't change it, but what if i had found out other people hated it too?  Up yours.

No i won't use another one because kogake has better basic animations.

[Venarge]

Hey A******.....  .....Up yours.

Let me quote the Count. "Zero, Zero F**** given AH AH AH AH........"

Edited July 26, 2013 by Venarge

[Dessfar]

Everyone seemed to ignore my first points.

 

The new flip one is awful! It's very hard to hit, the enemies fly off in the wrong direction and you can't use it mid-air to get further!  

 

 

[Dessfar]

Let me quote the Count. "Zero, Zero F**** given AH AH AH AH........"

Wow that was embarrassing.  I'd delete that.

[Fundance]

I've never had a problem with the enemies flying off in the wrong direction. They always go straight up for me, in which case I only have to TURN AROUND and shoot them mid-air, or simply wait for them to hit the ground.

 

Remember that this skill is unique compared to the uppercut because it has two hit zones instead of just one. It's a worthy move that separates the Kogake from the other gaunlets. Variety.

[PaperAlien]

Complaining that it makes no sense for the Kogake to not be able to uppercut is like complaining that the Gram can't stab people. It's not neccesary to give a weapon every possible move it should have, and it might even be detrimental to overcomplicate this game's melee system when it's only a third of the combat.

I am all for letting Furax/Ankyros uppercuts ragdoll people, however.

Edited July 27, 2013 by PaperAlien

[Fundance]

Also it seems like this update fixed the Kogake for me. I can now down-attack targets I knocked over with the flip or charge kick.

[Dessfar]

I've never had a problem with the enemies flying off in the wrong direction. They always go straight up for me, in which case I only have to TURN AROUND and shoot them mid-air, or simply wait for them to hit the ground.

 

Remember that this skill is unique compared to the uppercut because it has two hit zones instead of just one. It's a worthy move that separates the Kogake from the other gaunlets. Variety.

They always go straight up, but the animation isn't straight up.  Its a 45 degree angle kick and they go straight up.  It would be awesome if the move was similar to the other gauntlets but with a one legged kick to the chin.