Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 So i've just max'd and potatoed my Acrid and it's a beast... but i kinda dislike the semi-auto fire (i was so used to my Kunai!) Now i still miss (and look for) Despair and i was wondering which one of the 2 was actually the very best one... Any consideration is welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alighierian Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 from what I've heard Acrid is better damage wise, despair has a full auto function but with a fast trigger finger it's not a disaster to go without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowedcross Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I haven't leveled my Despair up yet and I haven't got Acrid, but I've heard a lot of people say Acrid is the one to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 i do have a fast trigger finger and alternative fire on mouse-wheel but... well i'd like to know the opinion from someone who have used both, maybe extensively :) thx for ur comments anyway :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1grifter Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 i have all 3 both the Despair and Kunai lots of dmg but not a scratch on Acrid as far as i can see the big thing is the two v slots on the knifes saves forma but at high levels with large armor the acid comes out on top this is just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirshy Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 In terms of actual DPS Acrid > Despair > Kunai However, if you aren't a fan of the Acrid's style, then stick with Despair. Personally I just use Twin Vipers, as they're the most fun. I have to do a test with the Acrid to see if you can get Sonar to effect the DoT. If you can't, Despair beats Acrid if you have Sonar and can hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Well i just want a sidearm to use against enemies 100+ Below that lvl i use Kunai (or, if even lower, i'm gonna craft the Vasto soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirshy Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Welp, once you get Despair, you may wish to retire your Kunai. The only enemies Despair does reduced damage to are Infested Chargers, Infested Crawlers, and Phroid. Medium Grineer it does 1.5x, and corpus heads take an extra x2 (on top of the headshot x2). Ancients, it deals more damage simply because it has a higher base damage. EDIT: Since apparently it wasn't obvious, this post is comparing Kunai and Despair, >>>NOT<<< Despair and Acrid Edited August 2, 2013 by TheBlueJelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Acrid has better single target DPS as well as being hitscan but Despair doesn't have to deal with a DoT and you can sometimes hit multiple enemies. Edit: yeah, it's not hitscan. I haven't used it in so long I forgot. Derp. Edited August 1, 2013 by BadAimbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101blubb Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Acrid has better single target DPS as well as being hitscan [...] Acrid being hitscan [...] Acrid hitscan [...] What...? Edited August 1, 2013 by 101blubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 What...? eheheh, got to agree, Acrid isnt hitscan m8 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loser_Prime Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have both, and I would choose Acrid over Despair any day, whether it's for wielding a hilariously over-sized pistol or having extremely high firepower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have both, and I would choose Acrid over Despair any day, whether it's for wielding a hilariously over-sized pistol or having extremely high firepower. what about the fact Acrid missing Polarities? is that a big handicap? Because i didnt want to forma it... (well max 1 time for now...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loser_Prime Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 what about the fact Acrid missing Polarities? is that a big handicap? Because i didnt want to forma it... (well max 1 time for now...) Yes, you'll have to polarize it multiple times to see its absolute full potential. I say it's very well worth doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Yes, you'll have to polarize it multiple times to see its absolute full potential. I say it's very well worth doing so. Like everything i guess... i'll give it 1 as i said, maybe 2 if i'll have more formas, but that's it, thx for the advice :) PS: out of curiosity how many times did you forma it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Acrid has better single target DPS as well as being hitscan but Despair doesn't have to deal with a DoT and you can sometimes hit multiple enemies. Biggest bullS#&$ ever. Acrid is not hitscan. One of the slowest projectile speeds of all guns. Edited August 1, 2013 by Grulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainabi Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Ancients, it deals more damage simply because it has a higher base damage. acrid has 25 base dmg yes, but it ignores armor, also it deals 4 ticks from the dot (dot is 75% of the base dmg), in the end it will deal more dmg than the despair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 basically 1 hit + 4 dots at 75% = 100 dmg/shot if i'm not mistaken... 25 + (4*75% of 25 = 300% of 25 = 75) = 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procession Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Biggest bullS#&$ ever. Acrid is not hitscan. One of the slowest projectile speeds of all guns. Exactly what I was thinking because you know it's slow when you can actually see the round someone is shooting from an angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainabi Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 basically 1 hit + 4 dots at 75% = 100 dmg/shot if i'm not mistaken... 25 + (4*75% of 25 = 300% of 25 = 75) = 100 exactly it also deals x3 dmg to corpus moa :) but also reduced dmg to ancients I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImaginaryFacepalm Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 It doesn´t do exactly do 100 base dmg, because 25*0,75 = 18.75 gets rounded down to 18, so it is 97 dmg total, not that that matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simeo77 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Despair is overpowered and is probably set to be nerfed. Also, the auto-fire of Despair is just until the glitch is fixed, then it will be changed back to what it should be.... semi-auto. Acrid is powerful, but it's a clan weapon so it'll probably stay the same. The semi-auto on it works very well. Acrid for permanence. Edit: Actually, Despair probably won't be nerfed, but auto will be switched to semi-auto again. (like it used to be). Probably won't be nerfed because it's a stalker weapon and shouldn't be. Edited August 1, 2013 by simeo77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) It doesn´t do exactly do 100 base dmg, because 25*0,75 = 18.75 gets rounded down to 18, so it is 97 dmg total, not that that matters... 18,75*4 = 75... + 25 = 100, lol edit: oh you mean once rounded... well i guess a 0.75 should be rounded to 1 rather than to 0, so maybe it becomes 103, whatever Edited August 1, 2013 by Phoenix86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagonene Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have both of them and prefer the acrid. Despair rocks but I find myself wasting ammo when I dont need to throw more at an ancient who won't vanish. Only downside to acrid is the sound. Sounds like an 80s porno mod to space invaders. Spurt spurt ploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simeo77 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 .....Only downside to acrid is the sound. Sounds like an 80s porno mod to space invaders. Spurt spurt ploit. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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