crafturtoemc Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Did you guys get Hitching/ Stuttering that worsens the more you play in mission? Only after U18? If so, have you found any solution to fix it? Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadaddadada Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Bandaid until fix: try to disable vsync and cap framerates to twice the refresh rate of your monitor. y u no post specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 My spec should not be a problem.. Hmm, I've tried Disabling Vysnc and Cap Framerates, my FPS goes skyhigh..But still,, overtime the stutter still makes me playing frame.. The stutter is like, your fps is good, then it freezes/spike your frame rate for a second then back to normal. In longer mission, the freezing occurs really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedAlmond Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I have a similar issue, it also happens like clockwork, every 5 seconds I get this freeze that gets progressively longer. At the last sortie mission (20 wave Def) I had 2 second hangs every 5 seconds, so it's pretty terrible. Also my performance has been good up until update 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juarcoi Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I have the same problem here i don't know why but every 5 seconds(not literally) it freeze but a second later it goes normally 60 fps. I almost tried with low config but it still happens. Please fix it! :D Sorry if my english is too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnimorph Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Yes, already raised a thread about this, and a ticket. Hitching that progressively gets worse and worse till it's a slide show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajoken Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) I can add myself to the list of constant stutter. It has become increasingly annoying and I'm almost at the point of uninstalling the game because there's no fun left at all. Oh and my graphics card stays at about 30% usage at most, so that can't be the problem. Edited December 5, 2015 by Kajoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veemaxt Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) There are numerous theads on this. We have all submited tickets. DE are aware if the problem and are working on it. Update 18.0.2 didnt fix it. Changing vsync and/or capping framerate wont cure this problem. My opinion is, it is network related, as I can play solo (there is minimal stutter but no freezing), but cant play more than 2 minutes in a team. Wait out and see when a hotfix comes I suppose. Dont uninstall ;-) Last time the update bought such problems was U14 if I remember rightly. Took a week to fix with many hotfix patches. Just take a couple of days break from it. If you uninstall, you will only find yourself redownloading it in a weeks time. Once a space ninja, alway a space ninja. Edited December 5, 2015 by Veemaxt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I had several issues yesterday, this morning I downloaded the hotfix and upon getting it I Verified and later Optimized the download cache. Downloaded 30MB and some issues are gone.I need to further test up to which point has performance improved, but I definitely recommend doing that. May take a while though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Yes, already raised a thread about this, and a ticket. Hitching that progressively gets worse and worse till it's a slide show. Yeah, same here. Worsen every mission and time in a mission eh? I have a similar issue, it also happens like clockwork, every 5 seconds I get this freeze that gets progressively longer. At the last sortie mission (20 wave Def) I had 2 second hangs every 5 seconds, so it's pretty terrible. Also my performance has been good up until update 18. My performance is good because I have a decent computer. But that hitching is really a killer. I can add myself to the list of constant stutter. It has become increasingly annoying and I'm almost at the point of uninstalling the game because there's no fun left at all. Oh and my graphics card stays at about 30% usage at most, so that can't be the problem. I'm planning to reinstall the game, but I can't now cause Wukong in our clan is almost complete...I don't want to refarm the argon. I had several issues yesterday, this morning I downloaded the hotfix and upon getting it I Verified and later Optimized the download cache. Downloaded 30MB and some issues are gone. I need to further test up to which point has performance improved, but I definitely recommend doing that. May take a while though. Hmm, 37MB? right? Try verify it again...Mine downloaded and installed. Then I press verify again and it checks again...37MB? WTF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugas42 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I can add myself to the list of constant stutter. It has become increasingly annoying and I'm almost at the point of uninstalling the game because there's no fun left at all. Oh and my graphics card stays at about 30% usage at most, so that can't be the problem. That's funny actually... I have been having this same issue but i've noticed that it is indeed tied to the graphics card, just not in the way you would expect. When I start dropping frames I'm noticing that my GPU usage is bouncing between about 10% and 0% every second or two. These drops in load to 0% match up exactly with when I stutter in game. From what I can see, it seems almost like Warframe forgets that you have a graphics card at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) That's funny actually... I have been having this same issue but i've noticed that it is indeed tied to the graphics card, just not in the way you would expect. When I start dropping frames I'm noticing that my GPU usage is bouncing between about 10% and 0% every second or two. These drops in load to 0% match up exactly with when I stutter in game. From what I can see, it seems almost like Warframe forgets that you have a graphics card at all. Wait, what..? Is that actually what happens? I need to investigate in this...but it does not look like I took a peek at my OCD monitoring. But it can't be, the stutter worsens the more mission/ time you spend (except in liset). Edited December 5, 2015 by crafturtoemc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugas42 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Wait, what..? Is that actually what happens? I need to investigate in this...but it does not look like I took a peek at my OCD monitoring. But it can't be, the stutter worsens the more mission/ time you spend (except in liset). That does appear to be what happens, at least for me. The stuttering will progressively get worse as my graphics card sits at 0% load for longer periods of time. On top of that this only happens for me when i'm in a mission with other players. I can play solo just fine, but if I play a coop mission, whether I am the host or a client, I will start to stutter around 5 minutes into the mission every time, without fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningisgood Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 spent the entire night trying to find a fix for this exact problem, but from my looking into it their seems to be a small memory leak when your in a mission. It doesn't happen in the liset and I haven't tested solo but i suspect it doesn't do it there. I expect it to be an issue with packets not being received and stored properly causing the stutter but that's just my best guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysaria Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hey I do have the same stuttering problems since U18 when I'm in a mission. I checked the thing with the GPU usage dropping and it's true for me too although it didn't droped to 0% every time. Hope they will fix this soon <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Hi, to reply to above. I believe it is not the game not recognizing you have a GPU. I'm pretty sure its just some bug in the programming or optimisation, let's hope it get hotfixed soon... Gonna redownload my game see if it happens. ( pls tell me below if redownload the game doesnt work. LOL) I have a NVIDIA card too. spent the entire night trying to find a fix for this exact problem, but from my looking into it their seems to be a small memory leak when your in a mission. It doesn't happen in the liset and I haven't tested solo but i suspect it doesn't do it there. I expect it to be an issue with packets not being received and stored properly causing the stutter but that's just my best guess Hmm, they've asked me to send some thread log, base address + name. I guess they either need to recreate the bug or find what is it My EE.log did not give a hint for the bug.Though. Edited December 5, 2015 by crafturtoemc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugas42 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hey I do have the same stuttering problems since U18 when I'm in a mission. I checked the thing with the GPU usage dropping and it's true for me too although it didn't droped to 0% every time. Hope they will fix this soon <_< That looks exactly like mine during a mission. Glad that at least we've somewhat isolated the problem to being GPU based. My telemetry during a mission: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningisgood Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) why would it only affect multiplayer games though? I think its affecting the GPU but might not be based in it. I've tried changing every setting and have got no results. reinstalling did nothing, defragging did nothing, validating files turned up files that needed to be replaced every time i've tried (i've tried 3 times now), and i updated my graphics drivers but can never seem to fix it. Edited December 5, 2015 by winningisgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugas42 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) why would it only affect multiplayer games though? I think its affecting the GPU but might not be based in it. I've tried changing every setting and have got no results. reinstalling did nothing, defragging did nothing, validating files turned up files that needed to be replaced every time i've tried (i've tried 3 times now), and i updated my graphics drivers but can never seem to fix it. The core problem is most definitely something wrong with the game, not the GPU itself, but it seems to have a direct correlation to the load level of your graphics card as to when your frames start to drop off in game. I don't have any idea what would cause that kind of problem, but it seems to me like there is some kind of flaw in the communication between the game engine and the computer hardware that prevents the GPU from performing as it should. I'll be trying the redownload/ reinstall/ verification routine later tonight in hopes that it may help a little bit, will post updates then. Update: I run my Warframe through steam and tried verifying the game cache, It helped a little bit. Went from running for 5 minutes until unplayable to 20 minutes before it's unplayable. It's still not a fix, but as I am doing a complete computer rebuild tomorrow, I don't see a point in attempting to reinstall the entire game yet. Edited December 6, 2015 by yugas42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningisgood Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 just an update, the new update didn't fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drahcir411 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 This has got the be the strangest bug I've ever encountered. It appears to only happen during multiplayer. Playing solo, there might be some minor framerate drops, but it is still playable. Playing online however, after about 5 minutes of play the game starts to stutter and lag. This lag gets progressively worse until eventually I lag so bad that I "lose connection the the host." It feels almost like a memory leak, but it does indeed appear to be GPU usage dropping to 0%. Very odd indeed. Perhaps it could be a VRAM leak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugas42 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) This has got the be the strangest bug I've ever encountered. It appears to only happen during multiplayer. Playing solo, there might be some minor framerate drops, but it is still playable. Playing online however, after about 5 minutes of play the game starts to stutter and lag. This lag gets progressively worse until eventually I lag so bad that I "lose connection the the host." It feels almost like a memory leak, but it does indeed appear to be GPU usage dropping to 0%. Very odd indeed. Perhaps it could be a VRAM leak? I didn't even check my VRAM use. I'll go do that now, actually. Edit: I just ran a mission for about 10 minutes and watched my vRAM memory use as well as the current load. My memory use is dropping with the load, so it's not a memory leak as far as I can tell, otherwise the card should be maxed out when I start dropping frames. Edited December 6, 2015 by yugas42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningisgood Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I don't know what to try now, any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 My suggestion is contact support and pray. If im not wrong it's their top priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Anyone tried reinstalling the game and worked? Ill give it a shot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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