lightdragon64 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Concept has been updated with 3D models! check it out! https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/535525-blink-strike-the-tenno-rapier-concept-updated/ Edited October 20, 2015 by lightdragon64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I don't really see a rapier having a place in the game, but Lotus symbol hand guard is a pretty cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 this is good,now with the new pic i can see how the handbasket is supposed to go,that was the main problem last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I don't really see a rapier having a place in the game, but Lotus symbol hand guard is a pretty cool idea. stage magician,squid,giant parrot that went through a washing machine,cowboy-esque gunslinger and soon a warframe that belches rainbows how does a rapeir not go with this game again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)tierney12 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 It would be good for Hydroid, our native Warframe Swashbuckler...or Volt because he's fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xca0 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I don't really see a rapier having a place in the game, but Lotus symbol hand guard is a pretty cool idea. True, the rapier wont be able to slice and dice at all. The lotus symbol hand guard could be incorporated into a weapon skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) True, the rapier wont be able to slice and dice at all. The lotus symbol hand guard could be incorporated into a weapon skin yeah,but a rapier can do two things very well,stab,and impale also,a rapier could do puncture damage,and there isnt any halfway decent weapon that isnt fang prime that does puncture damage in melee Edited February 2, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raqib1991 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I can see my Volt armed with a Rapier now....That speed ^,^ -poke poke pause Ultra pokes- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightdragon64 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Just to clarify everyone. A rapier is not a slashing and cutting weapon. a rapier would suit warframe really well because -it would be a fast paced speed weapon -it would deal mainly puncture damage (there isin't any weapons that do good puncture damage IMO) -being built around speed would enable players to put in multpile hits faster than any other weapon -instead of deailing massive damage this weapon would have a high crit damage (lower damage than usual but still very high crit damage ratio) -and overall warframe needs a thrusting weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudyDev Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Yes, +1'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archwizard Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 ... has nobody thought of Iron Phoenix? The basic combo has two slashes and a thrust. With another combo or two (which it's due for), it would be perfect for a rapier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Artarrwen Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 stage magician,squid,giant parrot that went through a washing machine,cowboy-esque gunslinger and soon a warframe that belches rainbows how does a rapeir not go with this game again It's not the aesthetic. The thing is rapiers (and spears, by the way) are exclusively single-target. "Single-target" is among the worst qualities a melee weapon can have, unless it also stunlocks or is really freakin powerful, like off-the-charts deadlier-than-a-nuke. The idea is neat, but the execution needs to be damn stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SteampunkJester Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 +1 Always wanted a rapier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) It's not the aesthetic. The thing is rapiers (and spears, by the way) are exclusively single-target. "Single-target" is among the worst qualities a melee weapon can have, unless it also stunlocks or is really freakin powerful, like off-the-charts deadlier-than-a-nuke. The idea is neat, but the execution needs to be damn stellar. spear single target?ineffective that way? there are some very nice scenes in "the 300" which illustrate why a thrusting weapon in general is not limited like you think Edited February 3, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightdragon64 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 ... has nobody thought of Iron Phoenix? The basic combo has two slashes and a thrust. With another combo or two (which it's due for), it would be perfect for a rapier. the only issue with iron phoenix is that it has slashing animations, which would be fine for a normal sword, but trying to slash with a rapier (which it is not built for) would most likely result in it breaking (depending on what gets hit). not a bad idea really but i feel a rapier in warframe would deserve it's own move set, much like the gun blade, glaive, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Artarrwen Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 spear single target?ineffective that way? im going to be honest,you are wrong there are some very nice scenes in "the 300" which illustrate why a thrusting weapon in general is not limited like you think Sure. How many times you would be faced with enemies standing in a line next to each other and right in front of you rather than surrounding you is also something you should consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightdragon64 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 It's not the aesthetic. The thing is rapiers (and spears, by the way) are exclusively single-target. "Single-target" is among the worst qualities a melee weapon can have, unless it also stunlocks or is really freakin powerful, like off-the-charts deadlier-than-a-nuke. The idea is neat, but the execution needs to be damn stellar. in terms of a rapier it would only focus on one target yes... however, the way i would design this rapier (in game) would be for it to have very quick attacks e.g. can hit a single target multiple times in a second or two, and also i'd imagine that because of being stabbed stunlock (for A.I. controlled enemies) would be a thing... also damage should not be the thing to worry about on a rapier, what my model focuses on is mainly crit chance and crit damage. so you could finish off a single target very quickly and move on to the next in a very short amount of time. the reason why i built my design around crit damage is because with a thrusting sword (in the right hands) the user can hit targets weakpoints (e.g. the heart, weakness in the armor, ect.) much easier making for a good reason why a weapons such as this should have high crit chance and damage... i just hope this clarifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Artarrwen Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 in terms of a rapier it would only focus on one target yes... however, the way i would design this rapier (in game) would be for it to have very quick attacks e.g. can hit a single target multiple times in a second or two, and also i'd imagine that because of being stabbed stunlock (for A.I. controlled enemies) would be a thing... also damage should not be the thing to worry about on a rapier, what my model focuses on is mainly crit chance and crit damage. so you could finish off a single target very quickly and move on to the next in a very short amount of time. the reason why i built my design around crit damage is because with a thrusting sword (in the right hands) the user can hit targets weakpoints (e.g. the heart, weakness in the armor, ect.) much easier making for a good reason why a weapons such as this should have high crit chance and damage... i just hope this clarifies. That's what I thought, yeah. I was just clarifying why it might not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) That's what I thought, yeah. I was just clarifying why it might not work. and yet you were complaining about single target as being non functional, Edited February 3, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Edit: ive been asked by the OP to be nice,and ill respect that Edited February 3, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightdragon64 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 i like how overall alot of people are liking this idea! thanks so much everyone it means alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 done,it was very difficult turning a 2d lotus emblem into an optical illusion..I.E. looking down the blade and seeing the flower took me alot of work,hope you enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archwizard Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 the only issue with iron phoenix is that it has slashing animations, which would be fine for a normal sword, but trying to slash with a rapier (which it is not built for) would most likely result in it breaking (depending on what gets hit). ... and you think fighting with a rapier is all thrusting? The difference between a rapier and a fencing foil or epee is that it has an edge as well as a point, providing slashing capabilities. I think I'd draw more disappointment from the fact that Iron Phoenix' combos are, for the most part, two-handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaioni Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Question- by the stats you gave are you going for a fast attack speed and crit style of melee weapon? as the dmg IMO is potentially throwing the weapon away from end tier(may be wrong would have to do a lot of checking but with stuff like the dakra prime and dragon nikana how would the weapon play out as it fits similar area's in terms of being a very icon weapon) Id personally love to see a rapier or fencer like blade in warframe because its an excellent change from the traditional smash em down or rip em open style weapons and adds a form of elegance and finesse to a frame.I personally see rapiers fitting in just as well as any other weapon in warframe because quite frankly to those who are we're "ninja's" and that only. Then why are we running around with pirate like machetes giant hammers and some obnoxious weapons I.E. infested whips...hell even having a nikana which is modeled after katana's is abit of a ninja breaker as thats a samurai class feudal sword and traditionally ninja's are depicted with ninjato's (see where the name is from?) which are shorter easily concealed and easier to forge as ninja's were commonly born from civilians and peasant slaves. Now aesthetic wise it can go either energy style and be some sort of cyber rapier or it can be traditional tenno lab style like the venka, etc...so overall I think its an awesome idea for a weapon. Really liked how your stance combos are named after typical fencer styles but I think the combos themself need tweaking - maybe a combo that incorporates the block to appeal to the common audience that enjoy having a simpler combo alongside all the pauses and backwards, that in fairness arent hard to do but require you to put a bit of thought into :p. Overall I salute you for and I really would love a rapier weaponloved your idea so much i made it my first post :P Edited February 6, 2015 by kaioni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaioni Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 ... and you think fighting with a rapier is all thrusting? The difference between a rapier and a fencing foil or epee is that it has an edge as well as a point, providing slashing capabilities. I think I'd draw more disappointment from the fact that Iron Phoenix' combos are, for the most part, two-handed. Agree'd a rapier is used for more than just thrusting as the blades edge is sharp and is used to wear down the opponent and make opennings to pierce through. Example being to cut someone and then thurst into the wound as a rapier. The IF combos are very heavy far from a traditional fencer and rapier style of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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