TheBrsrkr Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) The Imperator is the first Arch-Gun you get in Archwing mode. With it's massive clip of 250, it can lay down an impressive amount of fire for a whole 10 seconds, which is something to boast about. This, combined with a really fast reload (if you can call it that in Archwing) just makes the thing freakin awesome. Well, it would, that is, if Archwing was the place for it. Archwing is not the most optimal place to have a HMG, even with something that contains that much pew pew. Enemies are both too small and too fast for the weapon, especially since you have to keep it on a target for quite a while (comparatively) due to it's low base damage. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of it as it is (2 forma and a potato can't deny) but it needs to be looked into .HMGs are supposed to provide covering fire for a team, but in Archwingm Recoil and spread are nonexistent (except in Dual Decurion, which is ridiculous) meaning that the same careful aim has to be taken with the Imperator as every other Archwing weapon, which is a disadvantage to it. It also has a very low crit and status chance, meaning no specialization whatsoever. It's main damage type being Impact doesn't help either. What emphasizes it's relative weakness is the pathetic paintball gun sound it makes while firing. Seriously. Since it's not really a bad concept, more disproportionate, rebalanceing rather than buffing is needed. I porpose a damage increase of 1.7x, with the ammo reduced to 125 and fire rate reduced to 15 to compensate. The ammo recharge can remain the same, and those who love HMGs can still pew pew to their heart's content, though not as long as before. The Crit chance should also be increaded to 15%, and 20% for the Imperator Vandal. Imperator Vandal will also have 150 ammo and it's regular fire rate. Edited May 27, 2015 by TheBrsrkr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karukiku Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Wait, you realize you're in empty space with enemies flying around and the Imperator is not that accurate anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Wait, you realize you're in empty space with enemies flying around and the Imperator is not that accurate anyways. It's not accurate, sure, but it's still to accurate to lay down blanket fire on an area. That wouldn't work too well anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorPtolemy Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's not accurate, sure, but it's still to accurate to lay down blanket fire on an area. That wouldn't work too well anyways. You know what would work well? #BuffScythes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakatchi Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Imperator is the first Arch-Gun you get in Archwing mode. With it's massive clip of 250, it can lay down an impressive amount of fire for a whole 10 seconds, which is something to boast about. This, combined with a really fast reload (if you can call it that in Archwing) just makes the thing freakin awesome. Well, it would, that is, if Archwing was the place for it. Archwing is not the most optimal place to have a HMG, even with something that contains that much pew pew. Enemies are both too small and too fast for the weapon, especially since you have to keep it on a target for quite a while (comparatively) due to it's low base damage. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of it as it is (2 forma and a potato can't deny) but it needs to be looked into .HMGs are supposed to provide covering fire for a team, but in Archwingm Recoil and spread are nonexistent (except in Dual Decurion, which is ridiculous) meaning that the same careful aim has to be taken with the Imperator as every other Archwing weapon, which is a disadvantage to it. It also has a very low crit and status chance, meaning no specialization whatsoever. It's main damage type being Impact doesn't help either. What emphasizes it's relative weakness is the pathetic paintball gun sound it makes while firing. Seriously. Since it's not really a bad concept, more disproportionate, rebalanceing rather than buffing is needed. I porpose a damage increase of 1.7x, with the ammo reduced to 125 and fire rate reduced to 15 to compensate. The ammo recharge can remain the same, and those who love HMGs can still pew pew to their heart's content, though not as long as before. The Crit chance should also be increaded to 15%, and 20% for the Imperator Vandal. Imperator Vandal will also have 150 ammo and it's regular fire rate. Its fine how it is, its balanced cause like you said, its space, and the projectiles have travel time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issun135 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 if you think the normal Imperator has too much dakka. you should see a vandal with maxed firerate and clip size. plus is there such a thing as too much dakka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Its fine how it is, its balanced cause like you said, its space, and the projectiles have travel time.They don't have travel time actually, though it really looks that way. My point is, it's actually not balanced because its space, because of its low damage. It's designed as a spray n' pray weapon, but that doesn't work in Archwing at all. Though, it could be debatable that we need MORE pew pew and not less, but how much more pew pew can you reasonably put on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorsContraction Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Imperator (Vandal) work just fine in space. I'm not sure what your complaint is. It can't offer cover fire, what it can do though is take out heavy targets with status procs. EI: It shreds ogmas. Furthermore if you are playing an Itzal or have an Itzal on your team that uses Cosmic Crush, it pulls enemies really close together. If you spray into the mass of enemies you're going to gun them down nicely. Currently I also feel Imperator is the only weapons that benefits from dual rounds because of its high rate of fire and large magazine. Maybe Dual Decurions can too but most other guns have no use for that mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Imperator (Vandal) work just fine in space. I'm not sure what your complaint is. It can't offer cover fire, what it can do though is take out heavy targets with status procs. Ie: It shreds ogmas. Furthermore if you are playing an Itzal or have an Itzal on your team that uses Cosmic Crush, it pulls enemies really close together. If you spray into the mass of enemies you're going to gun them down nicely. Currently I also feel Imperator is the only weapons that benefits from dual rounds because of its high rate of fire and large magazine. Maybe Dual Decurions can too but most other guns have no use for that mod. Yeah, some mods in Archwing seem to be balanced around the Imperator.My 'complaint' is that the Imperator spends considerably more time firing on a single target than any other Arch gun, no matter the enemy. It fails where it should excel at, which is in large groups of enemies. Sure, you could use Itzal to pull all the enemies really close together, but since when does a gun need to rely on something else to be effective? Anyway, this isn't a buff or a nerf, since it ends up doing the same damage I'm the same manner (pew pew). It just makes it better against groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSoulStrider Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 if you think the normal Imperator has too much dakka. you should see a vandal with maxed firerate and clip size. plus is there such a thing as too much dakka? >_> <_< >_> <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's designed as a spray n' pray weapon, but that doesn't work in Archwing at all. I disagree completely. Your way of playing is not my way of playing. "Spray and pray" works better in Archwing than precision weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issxi Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The Imperator is perfect as is. It is the future don't question it. Logic doesn't apply in the fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)LordPuck Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Imperator is fine. If you want better crowd control, use Fluctus. The Corvas still needs some work though. Look this up, Corvas Flak Cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holeypaladin Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Imperator is more of a medium machine gun, rather than heavy. There currently isn't a single HMG in Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpite Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) "Despite its shots being shown as slow and even having bullet drift, the Imperator is a hit-scan weapon, and will immediately hit the enemy within its reticule regardless of distance or the appearance of the bullets it fires" What are you guys on about? I found out the hard way it was hitscan when I started, after trying to lead shots and finding out I did not need to. EDIT: Or is that not whats being said? Anyway, I have no problem keeping it on target because of recoil anyway, if that is what it's inplied by people. Edited May 30, 2015 by DSpite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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