UmbraAtrox
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10 hours ago, crimsonspartan1 said:
My brother also plays warframe on his pc, since the first cross-save came along so I don't know if that possibly has something to do with it, but if so then i'm surprised the Strict Nat thing didn't pop up sooner?
Haven't played for a while, but i had email notifications for this thread for some reason, so here I am.
Warframe defaults to one of 4 ports as far as i remember, it should switch to a to a unused one automatically but i'd guess when it fails you get the message.
If before you had never any nat message, not in warframe not in any other p2p game, it means you probably have normal internet instead of a cg-nat monstrosity. in that case on both pc and console you go into settings and change the port on pc so both have a unique one. That should solve your issue.
If you had to do port forwarding to get rid of the message initially you'll have to setup another forward to the pc with the port you selected.
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4 hours ago, Dunkelheit said:
Or you get your information straight before you post info which can affect your fellow Tennos, no?
What? "i know but i won't tell you" ?? Did i end up in Kindergarden?
4 hours ago, Dunkelheit said:AHK is a very prominent example which got people banned as well.
So i missed one. That's the issue? Or is what i said plain wrong? Is a ahk script one writes to autoclick in warframe included in "any purposemade cheats"? Or is just solely ahk process without it interacting with the game getting people banned? I don't know because you won't tell, but then i question why you said anything at all.
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9 hours ago, Dunkelheit said:
This is wrong and dangerous to spread such misinformation
Then correct it instead of just saying its incorrect.
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27 minutes ago, quxier said:
Not sure if I get it correctly. "standby memory" is not swap (no HDD usage). It's used for REusing certain resources (e.g. running game again.
Ye, my bad. Did a googling, apparently standby memory is just space allocated by an app which may be inactive or terminated without unallocating space. TIL how inactive reserved space is called properly.
https://superuser.com/questions/1579851/what-is-standby-memory-in-ms-windows-os10 minutes ago, Gojo_Satoru1 said:I have cheat engine on my computer, but I don't use it when I play warframe, will this cause my account to be banned?
if you don't attach it to warframe it depends on if DE anticheat scans for it or not. If you want to be safe terminate cheatengine when playing games with anticheat.
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1 hour ago, quxier said:
I run RamMap to free "Standby memory" from time to time while running Warframe. Makes gaming much better.
I'm not sure how it's "write" or is it just "freeing" memory.
That's just freeing memory, all that app can do is to tell windows to unallocate space reserved by inactive apps, which might rely on these data and either crash or rebuild. In any case memory gets allocated again as soon as that app becomes active. All you do by "freeing memory" is to temporarily make space for warframe in physical ram while the background apps which used it to begin with have to realocate space in swap (what you call standby memory)
You should consider getting a 2nd stick of ram, or better get a 16GB kit from your craigslist equivalent.
1 hour ago, quxier said:ps. by reading RAM you can decipher certain data. It could be used for "wrong" stuffs.
No you can't. Windows does not allow you to access any apps ram contents afaik. If you want to access an app's ram you need to hijack the app, which for Warframe breaks EULA.
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Since DE does a certbuild for veilbreaker anyway they could also fix the keybind. Report one of the replies with"comment is ok but i want mods to see it" so they see it. The keybind should be literally a 2 min fix.
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44 minutes ago, (PSN)IndianChiefJeff said:
If false red flags have been an issue in the past
They haven't afaik.
Apps run in their own little space in memory for security and data integrity reasons. If an appA wanted to read write memory from appB, appB either has to map a space which is accessible to other apps or appA has to attach itself to appB.
Injectors like discordhelper64 or steamapi.dll , whatever teamspeak has etc. are obviously known, whitelisted by virtually every anticheat and don't break tos as they only add their overlay while not messing with the game itself.
Just don't use Overwolf, Cheatengine or any purposemade cheats for warframe and you will be fine.
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2 hours ago, (PSN)IndianChiefJeff said:
've been downloading all sorts of programs, from games to drivers & more. If anything that I'm running in the background triggers a red flag in their system,
On 2022-08-26 at 11:20 PM, eboomer said:Like... am I not allowed to have Discord or Spotify running in the background while Warframe is running? Do I need to close all of my hardware drivers, especially my mouse and keyboard drivers that I use for custom lighting) to not get banned? Am I allowed to have antivirus software running? Who in the world doesn't have ANY additional software running besides the bare minimum needed to play a video game?
I don't know how people can assume that any random program can get them banned now. Do any of those inject themselves into Warframe process? No they don't (edit: discord does for overlay, but that is whitelisted by every anticheat and doesn't break EULA as it doesn't alter the gameplay etc.), so warframe doesn't care at all. What Warframe and it's EULA do care about is if a 3rd party app attaches itself to warframe so it can mess with the running process, just like overwolf and every cheatsoftware do.
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On 2022-09-02 at 4:01 AM, Soykaf said:
allowing 3rd parties access to player data without a proper session/scope system (think OAuth21) in place would be a security nightmare and DE understands this.
We wouldn't need a additional session system If 3rd party apps were allowed to read warframe ram just like overwolf does since the gameclient is already logged in. Also for mobile api a library already exists which uses the same auth as the official app does.
We don't need any additional tech, Just a clear answer how overwolf/alecaframe can break EULA 2.f (and probably 2.h) without breaking EULA.12 hours ago, Dapal003 said:Overwolf can do that already, but it requires using their proprietary api/software.
Wouldn't use that if you want to keep your account. Overwolf is known for some scummy behaviour. Wouldn't be surprising if they lied to DE just like they lied to AGS:
On 2022-08-30 at 1:50 PM, GojuSuzi said:Overwolf suddenly announced that AGS had said no one would be banned for using their minimap, AGS two days later made a statement saying that was a lie but they had agreed to look at the current version to confirm if it does break TOS only. A while later, Overwolf came out saying the current version of the app was confirmed to not break TOS, as did AGS...except AGS said at the same time approval was only as long as it didn't show resource nodes, which the current version did. After some confused back and forth, it turned out that Overwolf had shown AGS a version that literally did not exist - one without resource nodes - and given it the same version number.
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On 2022-08-29 at 12:06 PM, CatboyPrincess said:
potentially black box code by a for-profit company? DE: *sleeps*
open source community driven code? DE: REAL !?????????!
(quote edited to prevent myself from getting punished.)
Ye, also they always fast on removing cursewords and punishing the user as we are not allowed to use the full vocabulary in forums to a M-rated game. Seems especially fair when you consider they already have a censorbot in place which only deceives the writer into thinking the cursing has been handled, which it has not, if a mod sees your post it gets removed and you get a point.
https://forums.warframe.com/guidelines/
4) PROFANITY – Keep it clean people! Any amount of swearing and/or vulgarity, even if censored, will not be tolerated.
This is where we at btw. You write a doodoo word, Bot comes and censors but then also a mod has to see your post only then it gets removed and you get warned anyway. If only there was a way to tell the machine to do machine things.... I bet they don't even get a notification when the bot censors something, which would make it based solely on chance if you get punished or not.
On 2022-08-29 at 1:11 PM, Myscho said:I expect list of potentially bannable apps or something
Lol, This will end up just like the Strict NAT thread which THEY created, THEY stickied and THEY chose to ignore while players still have the same issues almost a decade later. All you get is a new Warframe. You like new Warframes, don't you?
Also a list of potentially bannable apps won't work. Imagine they put "CheatsoftwareA" on the list, cheatcreator renames app to "CheatsooftwareB" which wouldn't be on the list and technically eligible for a unban/review/whatever. You see where this is going.
Whitelist is equally bad for already stated reasons as of now we have a whitelist with Overwolf/alecaframe being the only (vague) entry.
What we need is a list of methods which are CLEARLY allowed or forbidden.I'll start, feel free to add or modify the list, DE only has to replace my preferred answers in the [Brackets] with their own:
- Are we allowed to READ ram?(read inventory, mastery, map, whatever happens ingame) -- [Yes, solo only]
- Are we allowed to WRITE ram? -- [Hell no! Don't even try!]
- Are we allowed capture (READ) packets (network) -- [Yes]
- Are we allowed inject/modify (WRITE) packets -- [No]
- Are we allowed to use the mobile API to READ? (fetch inventory)(Note: Mobile login causes desktop to disconnect) -- [Yes]
- Are we allowed to use the mobile API to WRITE? (start foundry task) -- [No]
- Are we allowed to use Autohotkey, iCUE, Swarm, Synapse(macro activated on keypress) -- [Yes, solo only]
- Are we allowed to generate keypress from software (macro activated by script) -- [Yes, solo only]
[Yes, solo only] means if your app uses this method it is not allowed to use any other method or interact with other apps using different methods. To prevent full automation. This does not include 3rd party api access (eg. warframe market) so apps like Alecaframe would still be possible.
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OT: On another note, i was curious what Staff is posting and stopped at Rebecca when i noticed she has 7050 posts but no matter what i search for i only find the 7 posts shown in her profile. What's up with that? Where did her other 7043 posts go? Would be a waste if they were gone.
https://forums.warframe.com/profile/4-derebecca/
https://forums.warframe.com/search/?&q=can&author=[DE]Rebecca&search_and_or=or
https://forums.warframe.com/search/?&q=you&author=[DE]Rebecca&search_and_or=or
Edit: Lol, her posts are definitely disappearing its only 3 now.
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Why does this post even exist?
Your EULA clearly states https://www.warframe.com/eula
Quote2. "You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:"
Quote2.f "use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software, tools or content designed to modify the Software, the Service or the Game experience;"
Do WFinfo and AlecaFrame "modify the Game expirience"? Yes, else we probably wouldn't bother.Quote2.h "h. use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, “mines”, or otherwise collects information from, within or through the Software or Service, including without limitation, any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Software to store information about a character, in-game items or the Software environment; provided, however, that Digital Extremes may, in its sole discretion, allow the use of specified third party user interfaces;"
Now i'd love to know How does overwolf/AlecaFrame get its data with such speed and accuracy while not reading rom Ram? Afaik the whole reason WFinfo only takes screenshots to analyze is to not break eula but when GamingBrandXYZ™ comes and does it anyway its all fine? #corpo4corpo ?
On 2022-08-23 at 5:07 PM, [DE]Dudley said:We would like to make it clear that our involvement with Overwolf is simply that we’ve had conversations to ensure that Warframe’s EULA and ToS are not being breached in any way.
So all in all my question is: How does overwolf/AlecaFrame not break your eula?
A simple statement in how overwolf/AlecaFrame does acquire its data and why this way is fine would be enough. You telling us won't change anything about a possible cheater situation as someone who can reverse Warframe to make cheats probably also can reverse Overwolf or Alecaframe to check what it is doing to avoid getting banned.
All we really want is to be officially allowed to obtain the same data as overwolf/AlecaFrame so we can build similar tools which we wanted to build for years without having to be owned by a company.
It's unfair to your community when you tell GamingBrandXYZ™ what is allowed while all you say to us is "... do so at your own risk."-
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I love you, you musical genius. I am witnessing literal magic.
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Doesn't happen for me with a pretty strict configured browser, so shouldn't happen to you.
What you can do:
- Open cookies (adressbar whereit says https://forums.warframe.com/ click on Lock -> cookies)
- Remove cookies (NOT block ONLY remove)
- Check if any cookies blocked in blocked tab, if yes allow
Refresh page (CTRL + F5), login, you should stay logged in now.
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My situation is as follows:
I use pfsense as a firewall which is connected to my vpn provider, all traffic goes through vpn, no exceptions.
I have requested 2 ports from my vpn provider, those ports are not 4950 and 4955 since i can only request random ports.
i created two rules each from 495x to random port.
basically i did this https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1195761-bug-matchmaking-nat-and-general-networking-bug-with-a-possible-workaround/?do=findComment&comment=11608874
additionally my pc has kaspersky installed which brings its own software firewall. There i have allowed 4950 and 4955
If i now use iperf to listen to 4950 (or 4955, i tested both) and use https://canyouseeme.org/ (for that i had to temporarily allow TCP) it saysZitatSuccess: I can see your service on publicVPNIP on port (Requested port)
Then i tested iperf (both UDP and TCP) from my phone (over mobile data, not wifi ofc) that works, so i'd guess those ports are open and my machine reachable, but warframe still says nat strict, anything i can do?
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i have set kaspersky fw to log everything that comes in through 4950 & 4955. When i connect to iperf (from phone and mobile data) i see the log entires. but starting warframe and going to cetus does not create any log entries.
Also i don't really have noticeable issues. I just was host in an eidolon hunt, and except for the occasional "session unavaliable" and the "strict nat" message it just seems to work.Another edit: issues seem to get worse or i just start noticing them.
Railjack kicks me on every mission transition, IF it even finds a squad, Random "session unavaliable" in PoE, Fortuna and Railjack, but less frequent in CD (probably luck since it should be the same from a connection perspective?).
SteamStats says there are 47k players online. so why is my railjack empty?
What i don't get is: Game says ports are closed, but still sometimes people join. How?
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Hy, can you please do Pendulum - Blood Sugar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM07HYSGVho
1:19 - 1:24
Thank you
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Same here. Happened twice right now. Would have tried a 3rd time but night ended.
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Whlie ESO might be Endgame for some, i find it quite boring. Since all it is is a glorified survival. ESO which switching objectives on the other hand, that is something i'd play
Arbitrations on the other hand isnt endgame. While the enemys there are lvl 80+ you get a +300% strengh & damage bonus which make the high lvl enemys kinda pointless.
What is so special about eidolon drops? They drop sentient cores, shards and arcanes which like any other resource you soon enough will have enough off. What about the rewards i proposed. Are why worse? better? and why?
Why not? When you look at it now we got a "endgame" which encourages players to afk leech on hydron to Forma their weapons and grind relics for plat to buy the mods they need. I am aware not everyone does that but lets be honest here we had all enough afk squadmates on Hydron. Since Endo gets thrown around like its free everyone has enough. And all that to play what? Arbitrations where you outscale the enemy with flat 300% increased dmg & strengh, and ESO so basically survival. Profit taker is a nice change, i love Profit taker i'll give them that, eidolons are fun too, but only for so many runs. I mean i get it, it's a grindy game, it's repetetive but it has not to be, we got so many different fun things we could do instead we are limited to endless <insert gamemode>
But just for the sake of it, lets not call it "Endgame" but "Rando Riven Mode" would you play it? And why?
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You start with a random loadout without mods. At the start you choose 1 of 3 Random unranked rivens, which gets equiped. Every 5 waves you get a new riven to choose from which also gets equiped. Every Wave, or 2nd wave, your Equiped rivens rank up by 1.
Since you start "naked" enemys would start fairly low, or not what do i know. There would be no mod cap. but 8 slots per item so you wont be offered another rifle riven in wave 45 if you already have 8 equiped. You also dont keep any riven you choose those are only for the run.
So you could get a nice riven at the begining or you can get 3 duds to choose from but in any case your challenge is not completely rng. There also could be 2 modes. 1 where you bring your loadout but get stripped of any mods and one with a random loadout, the latter having better rewards.
Another quirk ( or different mode with better drop chances) could be: Whenever a fully ranked riven would upgrade it "breaks" and you lose it from your loadout. That way you cant have an OP riven forever (only for 9 | 18 Waves) and the challenge keeps changing. For this one the math doesnt work out since you could have only 2 | 4 rivens at any given time so probably they would need to rank up slower to make that work.
What also could change is the mission type, every X Waves a portal like the SO data conduit could appear and drop you into another mission type. For non endless mission types extract would be replaced with a "portal". That way even the mission type is different every time. You could have a capture, 10 min Survival, 2 exterminates, sabotage, 2 Rounds interception then spy and 1 round defense in the first rot and the next one would be entirely different.
As for rewards. (i know these are fairly greedy)
I'd say Reward every 10 waves. A - A - B - B - C - C - C Endless.
A - Regular Fissure + Regular T3 rewards
B - Fissure but whatever relic you choose gets upgraded to Flawless/Rad + regluar T3 reward with chance to get a sortie reward
C - Fissure but whatever relic you equip gets upgraded to Rad + same like B + Chance to get a extra Item to choose from a random relic or riven (as if you had a 5th player who had a random rad relic (no vault) which also could drop a riven)What do you think?
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Can you do Tsunami Bomb - Take the Reins please? 0:14 - 0:28
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Did you manually forward the ports to your machine as the error says?
No VPN-provider will help because you can't port forward, even those that let you it's usually a random port but Warframe needs specific public ports, I tried forwarding those random ports to 4950 & 4955 but warframe didn't use them. If you can't portforward on your regular connection you can rent a vps and ip, setup a vpn server, and portforward that to your machine, but keep in mind you'll probably pay for traffic so no youtube while playing.
Other than that there is no way around it unless DE buys some servers for normal multiplayer which they won't do, you see how much they care about their thread and enough payers don't seem to care they are being used as infrastructure. Anyway, to check whether your port is open you can let iperf listen on that port and if you can connect from the outside, eg. mobile app not in your wifi, it's open. You'll have to specify udp iirc iperf defaults to tcp.