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    Unbalanced Warframe Grinds (Respectful this time)

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    *Previous post flagged for "disrespect"*

    recap, I got rnged pretty bad about the rewards system. How the game works is everything is free, if you get rnged you can take what you got, sell/trade for what you want. Nothing you need is ever behind a paid wall unless even money can't buy it. A good system overall!

    now the issue: Certain warframe parts you need (Khora, Nidus, Octavia, Harrow) have a system where you can play for hours on end, and not get that last part. Example used was roughly 5% chance to get Khora Systems at rotation C that's 8 waves in. That's 8 waves of 2.5 minutes for 20 attempts to expect 1 systems, totaling roughly 6.6 hours of grind. 6.6 Hours expected is unreasonable to me as that's far too much time to invest in a warframe, especially Khora. You can buy her from the Market, which is taboo "why would I buy the free warframe if I'm only missing 1 part?". You essentially need this to get your MR up, and you cannot trade with other players to get this part. Remember these are the exceptions, not the rule!

    I have my share of rng where I took 22 runs to get equinox, a frame of 8 parts rather than 3. According to the wiki, that's actually the expected number of runs needed to get equinox. 69 runs to be nearly guaranteed. The real issue is mathematically it's sound, but in actuality flawed. About 1% of players will actually see to their 51st run. May not be you, but it will be someone. Now that someone will quit the game if completion was their goal, and if this perpetuates through several warframe grinds, then you can see that a small portion of players quite because the grind is unnecessarily lengthy and they're forced to repeat what may or may not be a preferred mission for the individual.  2 of my friends have quit warframe due to the sole reason of unnecessary grinds. One of which grinded 120,000 alloy plates of all things for 4 days straight for the kavat segment. Ironically he got it, bred a beautiful smeeta then quit the emotional roller coaster as he no longer wants to grind anything else.

    What I think and hope to see (and I hope at least some would agree with me when I say) :

    1. Rotational rewards should no longer be the sole vendor for untradeable items unless it's available through non-rotational reward systems as well. This is largely because no amount of trading can get you what you want when the part is untradeable and contradicts the mechanics of every other reward system currently in game. Also contradicts the idea that player's aren't forced to play a mode they find un-enjoyable since necessary rewards are exclusive to and also not guaranteed.
    2. Tyle Regor should reward 2 unique blueprints for equinox parts per completion. They may not necessarily be unique to what the player already obtained. You simply won't get the same bp twice in the same run. This is an effort to reduce unnecessary grind that makes the game boring, because satisfaction came from only the 22nd run in my case (a 3 day process for my playable time). I hope to reduce the grind to half to be on par with other warframe boss grinds.
    3. Parts for warframes should be available in the market for sale. Clearly if you're missing one or two parts, you should be able to just get them. In modern society, you don't buy a new car if your current one is short a few replaceable parts. With this regard, the Market's overpriced deal for a potato, slot, all components prebuilt (bypass build time) is a valid excuse for the price, but the only essential component some of us need is just the parts! Maybe 50p per part sounds reasonable.

    On a different note:

    • Some players have already expressed their disliking towards the 3 day build timer for warframes. It makes no sense that pre-built parts takes 3 day to assemble. This isn't a auto garage where they charge you time spend "diagnosing and repairing" so they extend it as long as possible. This is more like Ikea, or at most Legos where everything is already built. It's designed so that a less competent individual can read the instructions, know to build the shelf on carpets and complete within 2 hours no matter the product's complexity. All I'm asking is 12 hours per part, and 12 hours to assemble. That way players can parallelize the parts for 12 hours, then come back after work to start the assembly, wake up next morning and feel accomplished! Generally, nothing should take more than 1 day to build, and nothing should take more than 2 hours to grind for.

    Unbalanced Grinds (Some language used*)

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    Posted · Edited by Descent-of-Damocles

    Ive cooled off a bit now, and buying the parts defeats the purpose. Ive traded and rolled rivens for a profit. I have 2k to freely spend and a nekros prime stash investment to cash in on later so buying it is not impossible. I just dont think buying a free item for 325p is reasonable when I just need 1 part! I have the potato, I bought the slots, I have everything else to build it, so give me that one part! Idc if it costs a premium like 50p to buy from another player. In fact id feel a lot better to buy it for 500p from another player because the principle here is that the market is a scam and THE SOLE THINGS I BUY FROM MARKET WILL ONLY BE COSMETICS and unobtainable items through gameplay, like slots.

    Unbalanced Grinds (Some language used*)

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    So I know this game is free to play but there is this one issue I have that really makes me doubt it. I have farmed equinox, by far the hardest I've succeeded at as getting all 8 parts in 22 runs is hard. However, getting Khora, is even harder than this because I can't for the life of me get the systems. She's rotation C at roughly 5% chance. You can expect to get her after 20 runs, for 8 waves of 2.5 minutes, that's 20 minutes per attempt. 20 attempts is more than 6 hours of playtime as an expected number of runs to achieve this one frame. Unfortunately that's more than a day's total playtime where I'm not sleeping, eating, working, living! I also noticed that Harrow, Nidus, Octavia parts also have a system where some parts are rotational rewards. Long story short, I feel as though we need to change this system because this was supposed to be a game where you can play for an hour or so and feel accomplished. Meanwhile I feel screwed over countless times OVER AND OVER!!! FCK!!!! FCK THIS SYSTEM OMFG DE!!! WHY!!?!?!?!

    Sorry to get emotional but this FKCING SYSTEM has got to FCKING GO!!! WTF am I doing I'M YELLING AT MY SCREEN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. It's so rage inducing to know I wasted hours of my life on a relic is can sell for 1p each and Khora is fkcing 325p in the market. YES THE FCKING MARKET WHERE EVERYTHING IS A SCAM, like if we can trade these S#&$ parts I can probably buy one for 50p from someone because THAT'S HOW RARE THIS UNICORN IS. I am in fact here to play to the game and its content but for SO MANY FCKING TIMES DE mathematicians have failed me. Don't get me even started on cryotic, nitain and PoE resources! I've spent plat on some of this PoE nonsense and it is a constant regret of mine >:(

    I NEED A FCKING WARFRAME PART TRASMUTER, but we all fcking know it's going to be added as a rare resource dropped by VENUS SPIDERS that SPAWN FOR A FCKING MINUTE OF ITS SOLAR CYCLE!!! IDC that legendary cores are hard to get because we don't "need" them, we "want" them, and can trade for them. Why was this done right and warframe parts NOT?!

    Hope this rant helps. I've given up on farming S#&$ warframe parts. Looking forward to prime vault tomorrow and the zaw skins that will never come 🙂 

    Warframe changes for new players

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    So I saw a video review that exposes a few flaws among the flaws I'm already aware of and I hope that I can bring a few of them to light and why they matter.

    You can just read the Bolded Text to save time

    1. "How do I get that?" is a very common question my friends ask. They see something but don't know what it's called and how to obtain it. The game has so much content but not enough information. Some of my friends who joined the game noticed the game has too much self discovery and one of my friends played half the game not knowing he was expected to use mods to upgrade his guns. He literally didn't know what mods were. Perhaps we can link the wikia in game somehow, like a guide rather than depend on the community (since some players prefer solo).

    2. The game has good PR for Warframe players, not for video gamers in general. I've successfully converted all but 2 of my friends to play Warframe, and they're not convinced the game is good because the marketing is lacking. We all know the marketing and new content news coming to warframe, but we only know and care because we're already sold to the game. New players really needs a leap of faith because Warframe's name was tainted at launch. Since then, without refreshing it, nobody who uninstalled will give it a second chance since it doesn't seem to have changed. Maybe update the way it looks on steam to show recent gameplay and development so everyone will see it is no longer the historical trash we do not mention.

    3. The free to play model seems like a scam to newer players who see the market and think that paying to win is necessary. In truth we all know it's not, and that's the problem. ONLY we know, but newer players who are comparing this market to other games will have the preconceived notion that better market weapons and better market Warframes are pay to win. Maybe the economy needs to be revamped because I'm pretty sure no sane person would pay 150 plat for a weapon they can build for free. Clear indicators of how the market works, perhaps indication of how the item can be obtained for free OR!!! buy it now should be added.

    4. The information on building foundry items in the game is highly dependent on the wikia. It also doesn't make sense to build warframe parts and then the 3 day wait to build the actual warframe. Small things like these made one of my friends quit. Perhaps make the warframe build (putting the parts together) an hour or so, since all the ikea parts are fabricated already.

    5. Another one of my friends uninstalled because he failed an MR test 3 times in a row... And the wait for redoing it was ridiculous. I sort of agree because in one of the MR tests (MR9), it was the first and only test I've EVER failed because it was a "dont get spotted and perform finishers on enemies", but the weapon I brought was the War sword which was gifted to me by my friend (Otherwise unobtainable until MR10) but the war sword fails to finish enemies without them spotting you because it has the finisher animation that turns the victim around 180 degrees to spot you. Maybe lower the attempt MR test cooldowns to a reasonable hour on failure.

    6. Some new players don't understand how the mastery system works. Even I didn't know how it works at first. There are other players who even thought rebuilding the same gun will work, which btw doesn't. There's no in game explanation on MR, and if there is, it's more hidden than wyrmius and happy zephyr

    7. "Ninjas play free"<- Delet this! This M rated game isn't aimed at the 8 year old demographic!

    8. The trade chat is undermined source of free platinum. It is an important part that new players learn to trade with other players to make platinum for more slots. Some players think that the progression stopper is the slots in the game, and although it is partly true, there is little to no opportunity for players to earn slots for free. We can earn potatoes for free, why not slots which cost the same? I'd suggest adding slots alerts.

    9. New players be like "What are these primed mods?", "Who's Baro?". Veterans players be like "When's Baro?", "WTB P-junk 5:10p". The Inbox notification thing is a great addition, but maybe mention it elsewhere as well so players don't have to learn it by random encounter by specifically playing on those days Baro pays a visit.

    10. NITAIN ALERT?!!!! It's been a week and one of my friends already has beef with the fact nitain can't be farmed. Make nitain available via other means. Even trading or invasions work too since the supply is not meeting the demand.

    11. Relics. Basically they're free loot crates. New players don't know how relics work. Veteran players can't find the relics they need and how to obtain them for the things they want. Maybe a catalog system like a reverse completed codex? Solution should be to search for things you want but not necessarily own and trace it back to where, and how to obtain them.

    12. Some of my friends didn't know that the quests are half the game. There isn't enough emphasis on doing these quests. They often seem optional and I would like to change the quests to be active the moment they're unlocked rather than have players build them for some reason and have them slip their minds. Who "builds" quests anyways? Important story line should be emphasized at the moment they're most relevant!

    13. What does this mod do? Instructions on IPS vs Elemental, Multishot system, Status System, Critical bonus system, Additive vs Multiplicative, rivens, Primed mods etc. are missing from the game. Maybe add an in-depth guide on how the damage system works rather than generalizing what the mods do. The "Auto Install" doesn't help either, because it prioritizes Heavy Cal over Serration since it's a Rare mod vs an Uncommon mod.

    I'm sure there's more but lets get these things fixed for now.

    Potential exploit with Umbra

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    Posted · Edited by Descent-of-Damocles
    Found new information

    Can confirm this is a thing. Would like to add it's W as in move forward, Toggle sprint must be off. Shift by default is sprint, and E is quick melee (for those who remapped their controls)
    Hold W, tap sprint+quick melee simultaneously. Cannot go through walls though.
    Also can confirm ALL warframes can do this.

    Nox has HYPER INSTINCT

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    So if you're invisible, enemies will not engage you. If they see you and you go invisible, they will shoot at your last known location. If you're invisible and shoot a non-silent weapon, enemies will travel towards the sound without shooting. Nox obeys most of these rules except if he sees you once, he will continue shoot at your last known location endlessly before snapping onto you as if he knows you're there. This is especially reproduce-able if you're standing within 10 meters of it while invisible! It's like he sees you anyways

    Excal Umbra Mission Progress Damage Dealt

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    Perhaps we can stop making bandage fixes for a problem that has caused numerous problems in the past. We should instead, migrate host to a central server hosted by DE so that no player is hosting. Any bugs found will be consistent with all players. This means patching will be more expedient and less bugs slip out of the radar. We will also see less exploits and inconsistencies while playing the game so we can stop seeing these Host vs Client topics in forums.

    Mallet Augment giving ¼ the area instead of ½

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    This is math at play. Area =  (pi)r^2 means any reduction in radius=r has a squared effect. Halving radius is (1/2)^2, which is 1/4 the area. I'm surprised people didn't figure this out when ember got nerfed to half radius, double energy drain for double damage. That's 1/4 area, 2x drain, for 2x damage, and we stopped seeing her in any missions.

    Need Advice on Permanent Decision - Sacrificial mods/Account Deletion

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    Long story short, the sacrificial mods outright sucks. The weapons that can use them are not crit viable and I would much rather forma away their polarities.

    Before I do so, there is no getting them back. I was hoping that DE will realize these Sacrificial mods are under-performing and the new polarities are a bad idea, but nope... I want to forma solely my Exalted blade because the Skiajati has a stance bonus that makes it serviceable at best. On my Exalted Blade plan, Sacrificial Pressure is going from U to V for Primed Pressure Point and Sacrificial Steel is going from U to D for Healing Return. This is because critical chance is too low and is useless without bloodrush which it cannot use, so why bother with Sacrifical Steel? Sacrificial Pressure doesn't even reach the same level as Primed Pressure Point and less than Pressure Point when used alone, so why does this even exist? These mods are simply a waste and I'm only held back by the fact upgrading to better mods is a one way path because I cannot forma back these U polarities nor get another Umbra. (Before you ask, I did max out these new Sacrificial mods, but I'd rather use Healing Return and Primed Pressure Point)

    But what if DE fixes these shortcomings?

    If DE does any of the following fixes after I remove the polarities I'm going to delete my account:
    1. Exalted Blade's base CC now 50% since Bloodrush cannot be used
    2. Sacrificial Pressure now 165% damage (alone) - 206.25% damage (set)
    3. Umbral Polarities are now Universal polarities
    4. +10 Stance Bonus

    So ultimately I need the veteran community advice. Should I or should I not remove these useless U polarities? I do not want to do it and then DE finally fixes these.

    Exalted Weapons Problems

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    I'm willing to dump 9 forma into my build under the condition I can fit the mods I want into the build. Problem is that this isn't possible for exalted weapons because we all lost the stance bonus. That 10 missing bonus cap is EXACTLY the number missing that now makes my valkyr/prime not worth using. Unless of course the umbral polarity can be formad in 😉

    Weapons not dealing damage

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    Posted · Edited by Descent-of-Damocles
    poor grammar

    The issue is with knockdowns. If you knockdown an enemy with blast for example, the enemy that stand back up will have this bug. Melee will still work completely fine.

    Umbra Mods: What's up with them?

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    The Umbral Mods rewarded for completing The Sacrifice offer the following Pros and Cons from my initial exposure to its release

    The Pros:

    • They provide equal or better stats to their non Legendary counter parts (Sacrificial Pressure is sole exception)
    • They provide significantly better stats when used as a set (Except Sacrificial Pressure which will never catch up to 165%)
    • Additional damage to sentient enemies for Sacrificial Steel/Pressure. *
    • Additional resistance to sentient damage.
    • Sacrificial Steel and Umbral Intensify offer 88 vs 60 critical chance, 44 vs 30 power strength respectively making them direct upgrades regardless of sets
    • They look nice and prestigious when you open your upgrades to find a bunch of Legendary mods equipped!

    The Cons:

    • The mods are all Legendary, you will require roughly 200,000 endo and 10,000,000 credits to max them. (Really expensive to most. Personally I can do it now, but I have a feeling DE will fix this soon and I'll get hyper-trolled if I did it now)
    • The mods use a new polarity that is currently unobtainable (Exception to Umbra, Umbra's Exalted Blade, Umbra's signature melee SKIAJATI)
    • The drain is 16 each at max, meaning 48 drain on Warframes (24 on Umbra), and 32 on melees (16 on Aforementioned melee above) making them impossible to build with.
    • * The melee weapons these melee mods seem to be used for are status focused, which sentient enemies are ironically immune to in terms of proccs. Making them ineffective unless you use condition overload. Also, Sentient enemies are nowhere to be found except for Quests, Cetus Night and Lua...
    • If used individually they offer no benefit (Exception for Sacrificial Steel and Umbral Intensify) to their counterparts while at 16 drain.
    • They new polarities make the counter parts unswappable, making all polarity investments useless for these new mods. This is like a new CPU socket forcing you to buy a new motherboard.
    • We further emphasize the polarity problem where V Madurai being everything we use, some -- Naramon, 1 or 2 D Vazarin. 1 or no = Zenurik, none unless required Unairu, useless Penjaga (unless primed regen which is btw a bandage fix to the dying sentinels), unobtainable Umbra polarity. We don't need more polarities to further complicate our builds!
    • Regular Excalibur and its prime variant are left out of these Umbra polarities, making Umbra a direct upgrade to the others variants in the modding aspect and potential maximum build.
    • The mods are currently exclusive to Umbra and its content in order to be effective per drain.
    • This seems to be a ploy to encourage purchase for Boosters and Forma Bundles for the newly released Umbra content and botched exalted weapons.

    Q1: Do you think Umbral polarity should be a thing theat can be formad or just revert these mods to their proper respective polarities?

    Q2: This is similar to 30,000 endo Magnum Force, 14 Madurai for 66 damage - 33 accuracy, vs 300 endo Augur Pact, 7 Naramon for 90 damage. Should DE rethink these mods?

    Q3: Exalted weapon are botched; The polarities require more forma investment AND there is no longer a stance bonus. Should capacity be applicable for exalted weapons in the first place?

    Q4: Are you liking the content The Sacrifice has to offer? What's your favorite addition? What fell short?

    Need emotional help, are all MR24-25s bad people?

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    Just now, NecromancerX69 said:

    Mr 25 here

    The solution to your problem every time you see a #&#036;&amp;(% player, just hit [ Alt + F4 ] on your keyboard. Works every time.

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    Joke aside, the only scum you will ever truly find is only on Trade Chat, that place is filled with sharks looking to get all your Plat.

    Finding Mr 24 - 25 players being douches outside of trade chat are rare (Unless you are on a meta farm like Eidolons, people can quickly get mad there).

     

    Yeah Eidolon hunt, TC, even at Hydron...

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