A_GreyBear

well I've never found that to be a problem for me but i feel even with that being the case for me now eclipse is pretty much always in Luner mode for some reason and even if that is just me thing or im being dumb and there's a easy fix i would rather not have to deal with that variable and just cast roar when its done idk :/ i guess its preference

magusat999 i really feel you some it up pretty well, the thing that stung the most when i figured out pretty much all my builds didn't work anymore was all the time and plat i spent getting all the mod rivens forma trying if this worked better than that, just for it to get thrown away in one update and its not like the rivens are going to sell for nearly as much either like my zaw riven i spent 50p they are probably going for like 10p now because of the nerf idk it just really sucks and theres nothing i can do so much progression lost and there is nothing i can do about it edit forgot to quote lol

so this is kinda going to be a rant just saying ok so warframe has just made everything that i use bad now like exodia contagion you cant do heavy throws with it anymore only light throws and dont get me wrong the heavy throws were a bit broken but removing them all together idk about that chief oh and they made my sobek and sayrn build not work anymore, they made it so acid shells dosnt proc more than one toxic lash at a time which i wont go into detail why that makes the build not work but it makes the build not work :/ there goes my funest build ;-; it was a bit broken but still nuking with a shotgun was fun af so they nerfed mirages helmith ability into the ground idk if its just me or im dumb but i feel like there no reason to use it now just use roar no? like i feel like all they had to do was not nerf it to the point its dmg is the same as roar like my main warframe was wisp with like 300% str with eclipse i used a zaw and stahlta my zaw could hit like 300mil-800mil with r0 exodia contagion which is a bit broken but i also had a good riv and my stahlta hit like 20mil dirct hit and the blast would be like 100k-300k but now my zaw hits 100k and my stahlta hits around 200k-400k direct and blast 100k ;-; and i feel like there are just a bunch of small changes that make no sense to me and ik ik some of the things i just listed are broken and probably needed a nerf but i feel like they didn't nerf them they straight up removed them or made them so bad there not worth using i kinda feel like im in the wrong here but like come on all i want is to see big red funny numbers on my screen is that to much to ask :< just make my builds work even a little bit like they used to please and sorry for the rant also if any of your builds just stopped working please reply because im curious how many build have stopped working because this newest update

yea I'm having the same problem i cant seem to do the heavy attack with the Zaw i can do the light Zaw throw just fine but i cant do the heavy throw

so every time i try to do the heavy attack with it it just makes me do a ground pound so i cant do the heavy attack with exodia contagion i can do the light attack just fine but i literally cant do the heavy attacks with it anymore i don't know if warframe just removed it or its just a bug but ether way it is really annoying because zaws are my most used weapon and i only use them because of exodia contagion