Manelag Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Title pretty much says it all, overall i have the feeling the void is getting extremely Oversaturated, for example. I have been getting things like Paris Prime Parts from T2 Exterminates and i find that just weird, don't we have Capture, Defense & Mod Defense for this? Or even constantly getting Mag Prime Helmet BPs on T1 Survival and so on, we all know it. Are we really at this point where there is just way to much stuff in the rotation and it keeps getting increasingly hard to get the stuff you actually want? Please let me know your thoughts on this or maybe even prove me wrong. Edited September 16, 2013 by Manelag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) The drop tables are probably just bugged. Now way this would be intentional. Especially since people are getting items in missions they are not supposed to drop from. Edited September 16, 2013 by Blk_Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 it is defenetely gonna be an issue soon... Because mission's types are limited but Prime stuff will not stop to increase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudPies Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The drop tables are probably just bugged. Now way this would be intentional. Especially since people are getting items in missions they are not supposed to drop from. Yea, they'll 'fix' it later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Title pretty much says it all, overall i have the feeling the void is getting extremely Oversaturated, for example. I have been getting things like Paris Prime Parts from T2 Exterminates and i find that just weird, don't we have Capture, Defense & Mod Defense for this? Or even constantly getting Mag Prime Helmet BPs on T1 Survival and so on, we all know it. Are we really at this point where there is just way to much stuff in the rotation and it keeps getting increasingly hard to get the stuff you actually want? Please let me know your thoughts on this or maybe even prove me wrong. it is defenetely gonna be an issue soon... Because mission's types are limited but Prime stuff will not stop to increase... yes and yes +1 OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manelag Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yea, they'll 'fix' it later... It would be in the best interest of all if they would address this Issue in the next Hot Fix, which i have my fingers crossed for that it might come today. Because lets be real here, we cant have a Big Content Update without at least 4-5 Hot Fixes within the first week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeAtlas Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I alrdy made a thread like this during u9 but did anyone listened to me? Nooooo... yea waiting for monday hotfixes for the drop table toget fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manelag Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I alrdy made a thread like this during u9 but did anyone listened to me? Nooooo... yea waiting for monday hotfixes for the drop table toget fixed I did read your post about that Atlas and i was disappointed that it didn't got the attention needed to get a change/fix for that, part of the reason why i am bringing this up again, now more then ever we need a solution for this. So i hope we can at least agree on that. Edited September 16, 2013 by Manelag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I believe that all of the drop tables were scrambled. Exterminates are no longer just Frost/Latron/Reaper, and Defense/Mobile Defense/Capture aren't the other 5. Orthos Prime only comes from Captures. Boar Prime only comes from Mobile Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I think there should be Year 1 and Year 2 Void Keys (replace year with season or something). Year 1 - The Frost Prime Era stuff Year 2 - Paris Prime Era stuff. It will take forever to get 1/4 of the new stuff because it is oversaturated. No, that does not make me want to play or pay more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segolia Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I think there should be Year 1 and Year 2 Void Keys (replace year with season or something). Year 1 - The Frost Prime Era stuff Year 2 - Paris Prime Era stuff. It will take forever to get 1/4 of the new stuff because it is oversaturated. No, that does not make me want to play or pay more. That wouldn't solve anything. Instead of the void reward pool becoming over-saturated, there would just be an over-saturation of void key types (with a very low chance of getting the type of key you want) This is going to be an issue if we start to see more and more prime stuff. If it were up to me, I'd make the void reward something like an "orokin token" or similar generic doodad. You could cash the tokens in to buy prime weapons parts and whatnot. This also opens up other possibilities (eg. more tokens for harder missions). This also removes an element of randomness from the whole equation (work hard enough and the weapon will be yours - no dealing with unlucky drops) Edited September 16, 2013 by Segolia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 That wouldn't solve anything. Instead of the void reward pool becoming over-saturated, there would just be an over-saturation of void key types (with a very low chance of getting the type of key you want) This is going to be an issue if we start to see more and more prime stuff. If it were up to me, I'd make the void reward something like an "orokin token" or similar generic doodad. You could cash the tokens in to buy prime weapons parts and whatnot. This also opens up other possibilities (eg. more tokens for harder missions). This also removes an element of randomness from the whole equation (work hard enough and the weapon will be yours - no dealing with unlucky drops) Well of course, we'd all love a token system and I believe DESteve considered it but who knows where that idea is now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manelag Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Well of course, we'd all love a token system and I believe DESteve considered it but who knows where that idea is now... They did mention it on a couple of Live Streams, but i haven't really seen any steps towards that, maybe it will come maybe not. It would be a great step to solving this, but i believe from a Business Standpoint it wouldn't yield as much profit as the current model, not to sound like i don't want them to turn a profit - just saying that from that view the current model is more beneficial to them, Steve's gotta eat you know. Cus people keem buyin' these Keys. Anyway back on track, a token system would be great, but for this to happen there would have to be a major change for that and we all know how sensitive this community is to radical/massive changes. Edited September 16, 2013 by Manelag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 They did mention it on a couple of Live Streams, but i haven't really seen any steps towards that, maybe it will come maybe not. It would be a great step to solving this, but i believe from a Business Standpoint it wouldn't yield as much profit as the current model, not to sound like i don't want them to turn a profit - just saying that from that view the current model is more beneficial to them, Steve's gotta eat you know. Cus people keem buyin' these Keys. Anyway back on track, a token system would be great, but for this to happen there would have to be a major change for that and we all know how sensitive this community is to radical/massive changes. If anyone buys keys with plat then they are fools lol. No offense. But I would love a token system with the void - everything else can stay RNG. Hell token system can be RNG too (1-5 tokens?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteNekophus Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) ♪ I can see those everytime... Those are all around rewards Those're waiting for me... Grabbing... And Raging... WHAT THE !@#$ IS THIS HELMEEEET.... Please, stop giving me Mag prime helmet :( Edited September 16, 2013 by WhiteNekophus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manelag Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Please, stop giving me Mag prime helmet :( I feel you, i have lost around 9 Survival Keys to these dreaded helmets. We really do need that fix, come on DE don't leave us hanging here in the dirt, i like being clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeyCDawg Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not sure why but it seems DE can't even breath on the drop tables without completely f*cking them up. Not saying they're incompetent, just that the drop tables must be way more complicated than they need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTNUT Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm guessing the problem won't be the blueprint rates... I just ran a T1 Mobile Defense and spent some time picking all the loot. The results: - Reaper Handle - 3,5k Alloy plate - 2 Gallium - 19 Control Module - 112 Rubedo and around 20 mods. Again: NINETEEN control modules. My mind was blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner187 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Again: NINETEEN control modules. My mind was blown. Wow really, I haven't really paid attention to the resource drops lately. Let me check to see how many Control Modules I have. Edit: Come to find out I have exactly ONE HUNDRED CM!!! I will never have to farm for these again. Edited September 16, 2013 by Spinner187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikki79 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not sure why but it seems DE can't even breath on the drop tables without completely f*cking them up. Not saying they're incompetent, just that the drop tables must be way more complicated than they need to be. More like they can't resist the temptation of removing anything you get for free to force people to buy it instead. Greed. Ninja's play for free, yea right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicalNine Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I got at least 4 Reaper Handles from 5 T1 Mobile Defense Missions. Might be the full rate of a 100%, not completely sure about it. Something has to be seriously wrong there; if this isn't a bug but an intentional change I really question the intention behind it. There go my chances for a second Orthos Blade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) More like they can't resist the temptation of removing anything you get for free to force people to buy it instead. Greed. Ninja's play for free, yea right... You can't buy void items. If you mean void keys I don't think thats a problem since you can get them &!$$ easy from 5 waves of defense. Edited September 17, 2013 by Blk_Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I went to Ext 2, and all the mobs were spawning at the extraction post. It was hell. Like a defense mission. On another run, I went to a room with like 50 mobs and all the flying Ospreys, looked like a huge electric trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeAtlas Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I did read your post about that Atlas and i was disappointed that it didn't got the attention needed to get a change/fix for that, part of the reason why i am bringing this up again, now more then ever we need a solution for this. So i hope we can at least agree on that. their recent survival drop table is just baaaaad tbh but i understand the fact that there are players who needs those key to get frost prime, latron and reaper so i understand that. But i hope they will at least start fixing them part by part :) starting from void rewards, survival oxygen and defense rewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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