SienRenegade Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 If they buffed other melee weapons, noone would use guns on lower levels, because melee would go through everything like through butter. Like you can do right now with Galatine. And only Galatine, nothing else. I call bullS#&$! BIG bullS#&$, have u ever tried Orthos Prime? I can use this thing against mobs that are up to lvl 100 with no problems at all, scindo fragor and gram are more limited in that respect because of the dmg output they can deliver and the range but they are still quite decent vs mid lvl enemys and I am not comparing them with rifles, just with other meele weapons....If you used the Orthos Prime or any of those and you still think that they are bad vs low lvls (even up to lvl 65~) I am sorry for you and if not, don't claim other weapons to be bad if you don't bother using them. On the other hand I think every meele weapon needs a buff to be viable even vs 70+ (midgame).It's risky to meele and it should be a viable option for all frames not only one or two (we are NINJAS afterall). A few meele weaps still shred enemys like paper esp. with loki / rhino. But I would like to use some of the longswords as well. But I don't think those problems I am talking about are interesting untill we know more untill about armor2.0. Maybe it's fine by then. Also, it is a PvP game now that conclave was introduced. Even more BULLS#&$ than what u stated before...."this is a PVP game now"....wow SHUT IT. PvP is NOT a part of the balance they should NOT balance it arround a gimmiky PvP. If u think otherwise I seriously hope u just quit the game because it's crying ppl like you without constructive feedback that make reading threads hard and anoying for everyone who is here to think about solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 DO NOT NERF THE Damage nerf it from the shop after 1 month or what or the Mastery Level to get it if you nerf the damage think about all the hearts that you gonna break THINK ABOUT MY HEART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalTree Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 I don't understand why people claim that this Galatine outclasses every other melee wep out there. Dual Ichor stand good in comparison, even if its a different kind of weapon. Note that I'm not stating Galatine is bad, actually, i'm asking you the reasons why you DO consider this sword to be the best one out of those mentioned in the thread. Cause.. might as well start using it lmfao. How much do you need to spend to get Dual Ichors? How much research, resources etc? Also, mastery rank. I have stated why I think this sword is too good in first post- It doesn't sarcifice anything to get all those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aure7 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This is even more $&*&*#(%& than Soma. I can't think of any other word, the stats of new weapons are $&*&*#(%& and I have no idea what DE is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KazVN Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 why have to nerf only one Melee useable in high lv map??? Why??? Why dont buff other, orthos P, reaper P, or fang P?? Why not gram, scindo, frakgor, why non-heavy melee? Why? For a long time, i use melee only for .. break container and dash jump longer. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalTree Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Increase charge length, increase price of bp, require more gallium, set at r4. There's your filthy nerf, be happy Yep, that's what would be good. I'd say set at R6 or above. (we are NINJAS afterall) (...) Even more BULLS#&$ than what u stated before...."this is a PVP game now"....wow SHUT IT(...) crying ppl like you without constructive feedback that make reading threads hard and anoying for everyone who is here to think about solutions. Oh, so you run around with melee, kunai's and NO GUNS(or powers) AT ALL because that's what ninjas do right? "Shut it", "OMG BULLS#&$" and then you cry for "constructive feedback". I've stated everything in the first post, you're the one shouting all over the place and thinking it will make your post "constructive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enomilli Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So finally we get a good melee weapon and the idiots scream nerf instead of buff. Humanity at its finest. You all love sticking with anti-progression and staying pro-regression. If people like you governed the world then we'd all be single celled organisms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 F*** YO NERF BUFF ALL THE OTHER WEAPONS DAMNIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzang Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So finally we get a good melee weapon and the idiots scream nerf instead of buff. Humanity at its finest. You all love sticking with anti-progression and staying pro-regression. If people like you governed the world then we'd all be single celled organisms... word of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skial Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) "omfg everything sucks endgame buff @#$% up" "" DE offers a good weapon"" "ASDKJAHTJABFSDK WTF IS this???? its way tooo op, nerf it, buff my @#$%, buff my favorite weapon... etc...." Idiots. <3 Edited September 28, 2013 by Skial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) The Galatine is nothing like the Acrid. The Galatine is like the Acrid in that while the Acrid makes all other guns obsolete, the Galatine makes all other melee weapons obsolete. Not saying that the Galatine is as overpowered as the Acrid, that's just a silly statement. Edited September 28, 2013 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 "omfg everything sucks endgame buff @#$% up" "" DE offers a good weapon"" "ASDKJAHTJABFSDK WTF IS this???? its way tooo op, nerf it, buff my @#$%, buff my favorite weapon... etc...." Idiots. <3 You know something is really wrong when a market weapon outshines the prime and research ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SienRenegade Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Yep, that's what would be good. I'd say set at R6 or above. Oh, so you run around with melee, kunai's and NO GUNS(or powers) AT ALL because that's what ninjas do right? "Shut it", "OMG BULLS#&$" and then you cry for "constructive feedback". I've stated everything in the first post, you're the one shouting all over the place and thinking it will make your post "constructive". You think they should balance stuff because of PvP? If you want PvP and a game balanced arround it then look for one warframe is a PvE based game and it should be balanced arround it, your argument was not a single weapon can do what galatine can do on low lvl, that is not true, simple. orthos prime and a lot of other weapons can kill low mobs easy. Btw if meele isnt viable why even bother implementing it? And if you are talking about new players buying it and trashing mobs with it, have fun use a lvl 10 frame without a max redirection and meele stuff, not even rhino can at that stage of the game without streamline flow etc. neither can loki. so yeah your arguments are quite bad tbh :/ Btw I won't bother discussing with you ppl like you are not willing to see the other point and there is no reason at all to waste my time with you. Edited September 28, 2013 by SienRenegade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vishous Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Why OP ?This is a PVE game not an PVP game and the Armor Rework can change everything.I cant understand why so much players say "that is OP that is OP oh and that too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veracityoffate Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Nah kid, it's not the best melee weapon. Because of the 5 minute charge time, it is out damaged by dual Ichor. It could use a mastery rank requirement increase, but not a nerf. Other melee weapons need buffs to make "E" something other than a self nerf button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Nah kid, it's not the best melee weapon. Because of the 5 minute charge time, it is out damaged by dual Ichor. It could use a mastery rank requirement increase, but not a nerf. Other melee weapons need buffs to make "E" something other than a self nerf button. Dual Ichors are far inferior to The Galatine simply because there are far better Charge mods than there are Melee mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Instead of nerf. Buff. Buff the Orthos Prime to 350 charge damage. Then who is your god again ? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101blubb Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Dual Ichors are far inferior to The Galatine simply because there are far better Charge mods than there are Melee mods. Especially with the craptastic melee critmods. Edit: Dat typo... -_- Edited September 28, 2013 by 101blubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Especially with the craptastics melee critmods. Also don't forget that there is just ONE mod for Melee damage, while there are at least TWO (that I can think of) mods for Charge damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zukushi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The Galatine is like the Acrid in that while the Acrid makes all other guns obsolete, the Galatine makes all other melee weapons obsolete. Not saying that the Galatine is as overpowered as the Acrid, that's just a silly statement. Funny that this exact thing was claimed when Dual Ether was released. "OMG it makes all other weapons obsolete!" Nothing like a good old whine thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SienRenegade Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Instead of nerf. Buff. Buff the Orthos Prime to 350 charge damage. Then who is your god again ? :D How about a slight buff for all meele weapons? So u can actually use them, but again here at that point I want to say: Armor 2.0 is comming so why don't we all chill a bit untill it's here, this update will bring the biggest....controversy anyways since it's screwing with a lot of ppls builds. Orthos Prime 350 charge dmg....well I honestly think it would be too high because of the insane range and arc the OP has, but that is just me and my thoughts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underverse Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) yes nerf the galatine to put them at the same lvl to almost all the non throwable melee weapons which are DAMN USELESS COMPARED WITH PRIMARY AND SECUNDARY WEAPONS ANYWAY. Edited September 28, 2013 by underverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmoone1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I honestly hope it's a beginning of having great, viable melee weapons across most levels of play. ........For heavens sake though! Increase the mastery rank to make this sword! Like....mastery rank 5 or something like that. Edited September 28, 2013 by Darkmoone1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SienRenegade Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I honestly hope it's a beginning of having great, viable melee weapons across most levels of play. ........For heavens sake though! Increase the mastery rank to make this sword! Like....mastery rank 5 or something like that. And make it a LOT harder to get I mean u are paying next to NOTHING for that thing. For the orthos prime u at least had to put some (if not the most) work in it to get all the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) How about a slight buff for all meele weapons? So u can actually use them, but again here at that point I want to say: Armor 2.0 is comming so why don't we all chill a bit untill it's here, this update will bring the biggest....controversy anyways since it's screwing with a lot of ppls builds. Orthos Prime 350 charge dmg....well I honestly think it would be too high because of the insane range and arc the OP has, but that is just me and my thoughts on it. Honestly for all the trouble to obtain it, that is worth the buff. Look what does a regular Orthos or Galatine cost you ? A material cost that hardly matters. For Orthos Prime you literally have to worship the RNG. Heck I am still trying to get a Frost Prime Bp since u8. Edited September 28, 2013 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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