-Mr.Meeseeks- Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 So I was considering gathering the pieces for Paris Prime, but wasn't sure if it'd be worth it. Is it any good in Damage 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarties Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Um no. Dread > Paris Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I haven't used any of the Bows since Damage 2.0 hit(Been too busy optimizing my Synapse), So I'm not sure. I think Paris Prime was more effective than Dread the last time I used it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS0Spoderman Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) as i see it it would bee good vs Grinner as it does mostly puncture damage, however the Impact is low so you would have problems breaking shields and fighting robotics, also low blade damage makes it bad vs infested ( even Ancients that aren't armored anymore) IF using Magnetic to compensate the low Impact or Viral vs infected you gotta think about the mods that Bow weapons NEED to function well : -Serration and Heavy Caliber -Fire rate for charge speed: Speed trigger and/or Shred -Crit rate and multiplier: Point strike- V sense and Hammer shot -Split Chamber because the possibilty to strike twice and each hit having its own crit chance is big -2 elementals to get the desired combo for each faction -A lone elemental not being conbo'ed with others ( depends on the case) -Reload ( player preference) as side note: -Dread=mostly slash damage so better vs infested -Paris/PPrime=Puncture so use vs armored -The Vectis fits the Impact category but it also has decent puncture and slash damage so its kind of a jack of all trades -i don't own the Vulkar or Lanka so cant really add them here ) Edited November 23, 2013 by TDS0Spoderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarties Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I haven't used any of the Bows since Damage 2.0 hit(Been too busy optimizing my Synapse), So I'm not sure. I think Paris Prime was more effective than Dread the last time I used it, though. Dread overshadows the Paris Prime in every aspect now. Especially because Dread can crit 15k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yefrign Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) all the bows seem to be okay at low to mid level enemies. anything beyond 40ish and the weapons start to struggle (notice this with the paris more than anything else) however.. this is with a pre-damage 2.0 weapon build wich maxes AP damage (now known as puncture) crit chance and damage, rate of fire, and puncture mods. havent really gotten round to optimizing them yet specially since I am still trying to gather all the new element and damage type mods as i see it it would bee good vs Grinner as it does mostly puncture damage, however the Impact is low so you would have problems breaking shields and fighting robotics, also low blade damage makes it bad vs infested ( even Ancients that aren't armored anymore) IF using Magnetic to compensate the low Impact or Viral vs infected you gotta think about the mods that Bow weapons NEED to function well : -Serration and Heavy Caliber -Fire rate for charge speed: Speed trigger and/or Shred -Crit rate and multiplier: Point strike- V sense and Hammer shot -Split Chamber because the possibilty to strike twice and each hit having its own crit chance is big -2 elementals to get the desired combo for each faction -A lone elemental not being conbo'ed with others ( depends on the case) -Reload ( player preference) as side note: -Dread=mostly slash damage so better vs infested -Paris/PPrime=Puncture so use vs armored -The Vectis fits the Impact category but it also has decent puncture and slash damage so its kind of a jack of all trades -i don't own the Vulkar or Lanka so cant really add them here ) very good points here. but alas there just aren't enough mod slots for optimal builds anymore xD EDIT: I've fiddled a little with the mods (added an impact dmg mod to the Paris and Paris Prime and I thought I'd drop down some statistics for comparison. ALL the bows are using these mods: Split chamber; maxed Serration; at rank 7 +120% dmg Speed Trigger; maxed Shred; rank 3 Point Strike: maxed Vital sense; maxed Fast Hands; rank 3 the only difference I have done between the dread and the 2 paris bows are; paris and Pprime now use the Rupture mod (maxed giving +30% impact dmg) Dread however is using Piercing Hit (maxed giving +30% puncture dmg) here are the stats for them (damage wise) Dread; 26.4 Impact 34.3 Puncture 211.2 Slash 50% crit chance at a 3.3 x multiplier 15% stat chance. Paris; 12.9 Impact 148.5 Puncture 39.6 Slash 50% crit chance at a 3.3 x multiplier 10% stat chance. and finally Paris Prime; 18.6 Impact 243.1 Puncture 28.6 Slash 50% crit chance at a 3.3 x multiplier 15% stat chance. as far as balancing the 3 damage types go I'd say the Dread beats both the Paris and PPrime in terms of damage. (with the build I'm using. I'm sure different mods and what not will harbor different results.) that doesnt really mean that the Dread is better than both of them. the Paris sisters will always be a better weapon to use against Grineer, (and leapers since they appear to have the yellow armor health bar as well) in terms of GETTING the bows: Paris is by far the easiest to obtain, Paris Prime does require a bit of effort but its not THAT hard to get. Dread is probably the hardest since you need to fight the Stalker, beat him and hope he drops the Dread BP (also requires a LOT of resources) so as far as effectiveness to difficulty to obtain ratio it seems to fit about right hope this helps. Edited November 23, 2013 by Fartbake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Xeno-Fire- Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I would go for the PPrime, it's not like you can "actively" try and farm a dread anyway.. Besides the Paris Prime is epic against Grineer, I can one shot all I've come across. I have seen a friend using the Dread, and it is very nice, against infested, anywhere else our PPrimes do better, although I don't know what mods he uses on his Dread. My Paris has zero trouble with mid-level corpus, if you throw magnetic onto it, it will just fly through shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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