lautalocos Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 i mean, this is a game with a lot of emphasis in movement. currently, fast warframes don´t have much of an advantage against lots of health and shields, because enemies have hitscan weapons. while running we will evade some bullets, but not a lot of them, so we have a problem there. i think we should have the ability to shoot our guns while running, at the drawback of having decreased accuracy. this would make the game feel a lot faster, and could make stamina mods as viable as health and shield mods thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosyPigeon Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think you should be able to shoot whilst sprinting, without any draw backs at all. Because it would be awesome, also because I can land head shots whilst fly kicking anyway, so why not sprinting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think you should be able to shoot whilst sprinting, without any draw backs at all. Because it would be awesome, also because I can land head shots whilst fly kicking anyway, so why not sprinting? hmm, you have a point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimumBow0 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I can't shoot straight while walking in this game. By all means, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azntrigboi Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 The thread should be titled: I Think We Should Be Capable of Missing 9 out of 10 Shots While Running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yeah, lets ALSO allow KAMEAMEAHAS while flipping backwards into duplex somersaults! Actually, why stop there? Just allow the super space ninja to move without getting tired, without needing air, or without needing to reload their weapons. Ammunition should not be finite and level 100 enemies should fall over with a sneeze. Bullets should not have to be aimed, and powers should all auto hit. Did I miss anything else to utterly REMOVE the challenge from the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamlessMemory Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Did I miss anything else to utterly REMOVE the challenge from the game? Yeah. Natural and rapid HP regen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yeah, lets ALSO allow KAMEAMEAHAS while flipping backwards into duplex somersaults! Actually, why stop there? Just allow the super space ninja to move without getting tired, without needing air, or without needing to reload their weapons. Ammunition should not be finite and level 100 enemies should fall over with a sneeze. Bullets should not have to be aimed, and powers should all auto hit. Did I miss anything else to utterly REMOVE the challenge from the game? i don´t see how running and shooting at the same time would make the game easy in the case it´s such a serious change, buff the enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notionphil Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How about we can shoot 1 handed secondaries while running, not dual wield, or primaries. because balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) "Running"? You mean Sprinting? Normal Movement in Warframe is already a brisk jog and you can easily shoot while doing this in-game. Sprinting, though, is when you put your entire body into it, legs and arms. You can't really.....aim.....and shoot.....while doing this. You'd have to slow down as you couldn't use your arms to keep your body in perfect movement. Now we could maybe do something that cuts your sprinting speed in half (or, rather, halfway between jog and sprint I mean) if you're shooting while sprinting, but meh. I don't really see why we need it. Edited January 7, 2014 by Xylia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Dual wield OGRIS and charge them while sprinting! YES! I LIKE IT! Edited January 7, 2014 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwierz Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 but rushing. waaahahahahah. ^that is why it won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashashou Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 i think we should be able to run for more than 15 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) i think we should be able to run for more than 15 seconds Try putting on full camo with combat boots + kevlar vest, and then break out into a full-out sprint and see how long you last. Oh, and add a pair of 9mms on your sides, and an M16 on your back. EDIT: the 9mms are about 2.2lbs each, the M16 about 9lbs, the vest about 30lbs, and the full camo + boots probably about another 5lbs. Edited January 7, 2014 by Xylia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 "Running"? You mean Sprinting? Normal Movement in Warframe is already a brisk jog and you can easily shoot while doing this in-game. Sprinting, though, is when you put your entire body into it, legs and arms. You can't really.....aim.....and shoot.....while doing this. You'd have to slow down as you couldn't use your arms to keep your body in perfect movement. Now we could maybe do something that cuts your sprinting speed in half (or, rather, halfway between jog and sprint I mean) if you're shooting while sprinting, but meh. I don't really see why we need it. we can shoot while wall-runing. tenno can just do all kinds of crazy things. i dont see why a not so crazy thing as this can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) we can shoot while wall-runing. tenno can just do all kinds of crazy things. i dont see why a not so crazy thing as this can be done Wall Running != Sprinting. And they did that, because they didn't want you to be totally defenseless while wall running (because, yanno, you can't just stop running in the middle of a wall run). While sprinting, you CAN slow down to a Jog and fire at the enemies. Or Slide and Shoot. Edited January 7, 2014 by Xylia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roransu Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If DE were to put shooting while sprinting, it would probably be highly inaccurate and denies the use of the ADS. I wouldn't mind a panicky sprint shoot ability when I'm either running to the objective, cover, or extraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If DE were to put shooting while sprinting, it would probably be highly inaccurate and denies the use of the ADS. I wouldn't mind a panicky sprint shoot ability when I'm either running to the objective, cover, or extraction. If you wanted to "panic shoot" then why aren't you sliding and shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silraed Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Try putting on full camo with combat boots + kevlar vest, and then break out into a full-out sprint and see how long you last. Oh, and add a pair of 9mms on your sides, and an M16 on your back. EDIT: the 9mms are about 2.2lbs each, the M16 about 9lbs, the vest about 30lbs, and the full camo + boots probably about another 5lbs. I don't see how this is relevant to a sci-fi future shooter where you play as super space ninjas mutated by unknown forces in a strange pocket of space that nobody really knows anything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't see how this is relevant to a sci-fi future shooter where you play as super space ninjas mutated by unknown forces in a strange pocket of space that nobody really knows anything about. There needs to be _some_ believable aspects of the game. Infinite Full Sprint is going a little too far IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashashou Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Try putting on full camo with combat boots + kevlar vest, and then break out into a full-out sprint and see how long you last. Oh, and add a pair of 9mms on your sides, and an M16 on your back. EDIT: the 9mms are about 2.2lbs each, the M16 about 9lbs, the vest about 30lbs, and the full camo + boots probably about another 5lbs. In power armor sure , no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gell Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Don't make the animators cry when they see how upper bodies holding 2-handed weapons react to sprinting and shooting at the same time. You actually do have to physically slow down a little to hold something even slightly steady. But if you put aside breaking the animation in the game, you could allow any weapon shot during sprinting to sway wildly. Accuracy -400%. Also every trigger pull or 0.5 seconds you hold down the trigger, you lose 10% of your stamina. Full speed running isn't easy, you know! But as for Kalenath saying it would make the game easier... not really. Maybe Ogris. Edited January 7, 2014 by gell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjeon Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Have you tried firing while sliding? I almost always try to keep in motion and sliding is the best position to start a lot of maneuvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 There needs to be _some_ believable aspects of the game. Infinite Full Sprint is going a little too far IMO. you are kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Don't make the animators cry when they see how upper bodies holding 2-handed weapons react to sprinting and shooting at the same time. You actually do have to physically slow down a little to hold something even slightly steady. But if you put aside breaking the animation in the game, you could allow any weapon shot during sprinting to sway wildly. Accuracy -400%. Also every trigger pull or 0.5 seconds you hold down the trigger, you lose 10% of your stamina. Full speed running isn't easy, you know! But as for Kalenath saying it would make the game easier... not really. Maybe Ogris. most weapon animations could work with one hand, except for bows. doesn{t the actual wallruning animation use only 1 hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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