BrainInvader Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Alright, so the Seer. Interesting weapon but I was wondering how the forums are thinking about the Seer. Yesterday a short post came through about the seer, where some people stated they hated the Seer extra Zoom-in, and others not mentioning it at all. What is your opinion on the Seer and how could it be improved? Personally, I like the seer's stats, but the extra zoom-in kills the weapon for me because you can't really use the extra zoom in due to the projectile being kinda slow and the extra zoom makes it very annoying to use in close range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 this should be in players helping players this is not feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vunie Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 it makes good damage but the projectile speed makes it really annoying specially when enemies go crazy and start running in circles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just wish the projectile had a tiny AOE cuz its like a mini missile. Great gun for new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainInvader Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 this should be in players helping players this is not feedback How does this belong in players helping players? MAYBE in general discussion, but this is feedback if devs read what players like/don't like about it. immolator1001 that is an interesting view point, the problem would be(Although kinda remedied lately) hitting corpus a lot of the head because explosions love hitting their helmet, but for sure an interesting idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralred Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Great gun for new players. Personally I found the extreme zoom very disorienting as a new player. That said, how 'new' is a player who has access to the two orokin cells required to craft the Seer? (unless they fell into the trap of wasting starting plat on resources...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainInvader Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Personally I found the extreme zoom very disorienting as a new player. That said, how 'new' is a player who has access to the two orokin cells required to craft the Seer? (unless they fell into the trap of wasting starting plat on resources...) That is actually one of rhe better ways to spend them. And I wonder, do any of you love the extra zoom in of the Seer? Or do you just use hip-shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Znoly Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Personally I found the extreme zoom very disorienting as a new player. That said, how 'new' is a player who has access to the two orokin cells required to craft the Seer? (unless they fell into the trap of wasting starting plat on resources...) Captain Vor drops orokin cell. That's how new players get the seer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralred Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Captain Vor drops orokin cell. That's how new players get the seer. Tell you what, go farm Vor for cells and see how long it takes to get even one. See you sometime next month. I've hit Vor for over a hundred runs by now; first as a new player trying to get cells, then helping a couple of guys I introduced to the game, then regularly to try my luck at getting Focus and Gunslinger. No cells in all that time. Could be I'm exceptionally unlucky, though that's unlikely based on the fact that those new players also didn't get any after farming him on their own to try and get the Cronus BP that apparently doesn't do its guaranteed drop any more. Or drop at all, in fact. I'm not even convinced that cells are on his drop table at all any more. Hell, his drop table seems completely b0rked, but since it doesn't affect the guys doing 40+ minutes of T3 survival, it doesn't matter, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainInvader Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Tell you what, go farm Vor for cells and see how long it takes to get even one. See you sometime next month. I've hit Vor for over a hundred runs by now; first as a new player trying to get cells, then helping a couple of guys I introduced to the game, then regularly to try my luck at getting Focus and Gunslinger. No cells in all that time. Could be I'm exceptionally unlucky, though that's unlikely based on the fact that those new players also didn't get any after farming him on their own to try and get the Cronus BP that apparently doesn't do its guaranteed drop any more. Or drop at all, in fact. I'm not even convinced that cells are on his drop table at all any more. Hell, his drop table seems completely b0rked, but since it doesn't affect the guys doing 40+ minutes of T3 survival, it doesn't matter, am I right? I got it like 3 weekst ago from him. First time I saw an orokin cell drop from him but he did, amazingly enough, drop one :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadhua Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I like everything about the seer just as mentioned above though, i wish the shots had a tiny aoe. i use a mix of hipshots and snipe shots depending on what I'm aiming at (either a far away heavy or nearby grunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralred Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I got it like 3 weekst ago from him. First time I saw an orokin cell drop from him but he did, amazingly enough, drop one :D You mean before U12, back when he was still dropping the Cronus BP? ;) That said, we're sidetracking the discussion. Back to the Seer... the zoom is not bad once you get used to it, but makes aiming in close to mid-close range a bit slow and further than mid-long range feels a little inconvenient due to the slight projectile delay. Sweet spot for range is a little small. It's a very heavy hitter for a handgun and the feel is very positive, though, and I can definitely see it being a strong tool for players who master it. I've kept mine since ranking it to 30, the only secondary so far that's earned a somewhat permanent slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainInvader Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Surely that were not all the opinions yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenosInfinity Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I would like to see a new corrupted mod that did something like reduce zoom magnification but increase projectile velocity. Not to hitscan, but enough to make it easier to use non-hitscan weapons. That way those who want Seer's ridiculous magnification can have it and those who don't not only get to remove it but get faster bullets to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLizalfos Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I loved the Seer. The Zoom though, was nuts. I don't like seeing all the wrinkles a butcher has. Hip-fire improves my sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempsgk Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I just wish the projectile had a tiny AOE cuz its like a mini missile. Great gun for new players. I also want it to have AOE, infact its Odd without AOE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 What is your opinion on the Seer and how could it be improved? The Seer is a beautiful weapon and can be improved with mods and forma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralred Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The Seer is a beautiful weapon and can be improved with mods and forma. beautiful weapon Seer o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 this is not feedback It is feedback. What is your opinion on the Seer and how could it be improved? This line alone is enough to open the thread for feedback. On-topic: Been a long time since I used the seer, but in the past I was a bit disappointed how the tiny explosion that occurred didn't damage surrounding enemies in a tiny radius... I think it should deal some puncture damage and a tiny AoE blast damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 o.O It looks a lot more powerful than your Lex, Vasto, or Magnus... Grineer style is beautifully chaotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axterix13 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Seer is one of my favorite pistols. I like the zoom on it, makes it great for picking off targets at range. It's designed to be a sniper pistol. Against most targets, it is superior to sniper rifles, in large part due to having a magazine size of 8 (11 with Ice Storm). Up close, the zoom doesn't bother me, because I'm up close, as well as that it drops most targets with a single hit to the chest anyway (with a catalyst, of course). It also has an awesome feel. Between the damage and the sound, I feel like Dirty Harry or Sledge Hammer. In terms of improving it? Reduce the reload time or increase the magazine size. But neither is really necessary. Edited February 21, 2014 by Axterix13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) It also has an awesome feel. Between the damage and the sound, I feel like Dirty Harry or Sledge Hammer. I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking "did he fire eight shots or only seven?" Now to tell you the truth I forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this is a Seer, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow you head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? Edited February 21, 2014 by Garuger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Upgreid- Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Can an Moderator please move this thread to Players Helping Players/General Discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Can an Moderator please move this thread to Players Helping Players/General Discussion? No it is a feedback post it is here because it belongs here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSITH Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Actually the seer is very good for me I like the weapon it's actually good with multishot .....awesome Edited February 21, 2014 by SIFTGOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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