AshenSwift Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 "- Fixed Zephyr’s Tornado and Vauban’s Vortex being able to ragdoll harder enemies (Mini-bosses like Stalker, etc). The Tornado will still deal DOT, but it won’t ragdoll. It is now consistent with other ragdoll-esque powers." Since when are heavy units "mini-bosses". I'm okay with Stalker ignoring Vortex, but Vortex is Vauban's ULTIMATE, and now it doesn't affect heavy units? Really? It didn't need a nerf! Could you NOT stealth nerf abilities please? Thanks. And if you don't believe me, try vortex on infested ancients. It DOESN'T WORK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormandreas Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It's not a stealth nerf. Stalker was given as an EXAMPLE!Harder enemies refers to Heavy Units and stronger (so them, mini-bosses and bosses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyuTheTrinity Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 someone does not know what stealth means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshenSwift Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Regardless, you might as well make NOVA'S ultimate not affect heavy units, or ANY ultimate. It's stupid as hell! It's an ULTIMATE. His STRONGEST ability! There's no reason for it to not affect heavy units! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momoynator Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The rage is strong with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMidnightX Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 does bastille still work on heavys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notionphil Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Raise up your arms, brothers and fight back against the tyranny of Press 4 To Win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshenSwift Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 does bastille still work on heavys? Yes it does, but then it's a waste of Vortex when they're all being held aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenJayVash Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Guess I wont be using vortex anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)billy-d-squid Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Regardless, you might as well make NOVA'S ultimate not affect heavy units, or ANY ultimate. It's stupid as hell! It's an ULTIMATE. His STRONGEST ability! There's no reason for it to not affect heavy units! Well that's a stupid post even for hyperbole. Nova's 4th power is hugely different from Vauban's Vortex is still fine, there needs to be a move a way from "press 4 to win" in this game. Vortex isn't as offensive as MP's catch all abilities, damage debuff, buff and CC and radius all in one. But, it was there, throw it in and forget, everything in the vicinity is paralysed and shot to pieces, especially if the weapon has shred or any type of punch through on it. If people can't learn to adapt to the fact that a heavy enemy might have some resistance to a power (My God, shocking that they could be anything other than cannon fodder) then they're using that power as a crutch and they're not as good as they thought they were. Edit: And doesn't Vauban still have Bastille which is one of the most effective CC powers in the game, which can catch heavies? I might be overestimating things, but it seems like we might actually have to think when choosing a power to use in a given situation, or even; to my horror, use more than 1 power. Perish the thought eh? Edited March 7, 2014 by (PS4)billy-d-squid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think they are talking about Leader units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshenSwift Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Well that's a stupid post even for hyperbole. Nova's 4th power is hugely different from Vauban's Vortex is still fine, there needs to be a move a way from "press 4 to win" in this game. Vortex isn't as offensive as MP's catch all abilities, damage debuff, buff and CC and radius all in one. But, it was there, throw it in and forget, everything in the vicinity is paralysed and shot to pieces, especially if the weapon has shred or any type of punch through on it. If people can't learn to adapt to the fact that a heavy enemy might have some resistance to a power (My God, shocking that they could be anything other than cannon fodder) then they're using that power as a crutch and they're not as good as they thought they were. Edit: And doesn't Vauban still have Bastille which is one of the most effective CC powers in the game, which can catch heavies? I might be overestimating things, but it seems like we might actually have to think when choosing a power to use in a given situation, or even; to my horror, use more than 1 power. Perish the thought eh? Then let me compare it to Rhino Stomp, which affects heavy units, CCs everything in a LARGER RADIUS than Vortex, AND does damage. My point is, Vortex is the LAST ultimate that should have been nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)billy-d-squid Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Stomp does small amounts of damage and is restrained by a power in use button. Vauban has huge crowd control capability with Bastille and Vortex. You think Rhino even comes close to that? He doesn't. The ability to concentrate enemies in a small area and then unload a shred modded Soma into them is incredibly effective. Now, if they're talking about leader units, or heavies. You still have a power which will suck every cannon fodder and leave a couple of heavies unaffected? Wow hell of a nerf eh? And you still have Bastille, you just can't spam Vortex, you might have to evaluate the situation given Bataille's limited holding capacity. And Nyx's Chaos is brilliant, but it doesn't remove the damage entirely like Bastille or Vortex. Edit: And I would have thought they mean leader units. Edited March 7, 2014 by (PS4)billy-d-squid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArmoredApostle Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 welp...watch as things get less fun..but frustrating...ima watch closely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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