1220 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 now i love ash, his only downfall is his smoke screen it is only 8 sec, and Loki's is way longer and you can get him in the beginning i personalty would trad off blade storm for longer smokescreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Wha- Why would you trade off an ability with another ability if those two abilities already exist independently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monybags33 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Ash has been one of my favorite frames since the begging of Warframe for me and continues to be so. However I disagree on trading out his blade storm for more smokescreen, why even do that? Blade storm to be is one the best abilities ash has especially since they updated him to have multiple clones and a bleed proc to go along with it. Just because loki has more time with his invisibility doesn't mean ash should just automatically get his ranked up with lokis, seen plenty of people work with it just fine. If anything maybe he needs a tweak with smokescreen, not a trade off. Edited July 15, 2014 by Monybags33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiiken Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ash's smokescreen stuns when Loki Invisibility does not. Loki's invisibility is only 4 seconds longer that smokescreen and you can mod for a longer lasting smokescreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenousPartyLibrarian Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Long invisibility goes to Loki. Panic invisibility goes to Ash. If you'd play Loki for a while, you'd begin to realize how much that stun the smokescreen does really helps. Edited July 15, 2014 by RavenousPartyLibrarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celle-Reveris Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Last I checked, smokescreen's an "escape" ability whereas invis is designed for romping about the map without ever being touched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1220 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 hmm i didn't knew that well still i think that it should be a little longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 well still i think that it should be a little longer If you want a long invisibility with a high energy cost and no CC capabilities, then play Loki instead of Ash. Smokescreen and Invisibility are designed to fit different niches in gameplay. I've only ever seen the "Smokescreen is just a worse version of Invisibility" argument come from people who are for some godforsaken reason trying to use their Ash like they would use a Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lll-URBAN-III Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My Ashz invis lasts for 17 seconds, goes well with my Dragon Nikata dealing over 300,000 crit damage and even more for some reason on rare occasions. BUT I'm building Loki Prime as I write this, Ash is good-ish and looks bad &#! but his abilities suck to be honest. Despite the above numbers I'm not really feeling his powers, they are a bit boring and worthless when most other Warframes wipe out whole rooms quicker. Too much messing around aiming at a single target to get his special off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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