Why The Forma Hate?

[FATEdPondera]

I've gotten that before. To be fair, it's a pretty common BP if you do lots of void. But I personally like having a bunch, just wish they didn't take that orokin cell, I can never provide enough of those.

I has lephantis drop four cells for me once. You could try grinding ODAs

[darthdart]

Some people would value a t4 key a lot considering they are a pain to get, some people don't want a Forma for a reward because they have a stockpile of the things + the bps for more already.

[Noble_Cactus]

The problem is that using Forma offers no variety. You forma the item, level it up to 30. Rinse and repeat 4-5 more times.

 

It doesn't mask the boring reality of the hard grind. When you're farming enemies for a certain drop, you at least feel like you're doing something important. Forma just makes it all too clear that you're wasting your time on a video game, especially when you realize that all you're doing is adding a little symbol on your mod page so you can give it more damage.

 

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Formas used to drop like candy for me in the Void, but the other week I ran 35 T1-3 Captures and while I got a bunch of credits, I only got a single Forma out of that nonsense.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Noble_Cactus

[FATEdPondera]

The problem is that using Forma offers no variety. You forma the item, level it up to 30. Rinse and repeat 4-5 more times.

 

It doesn't mask the boring reality of the hard grind. When you're farming enemies for a certain drop, you at least feel like you're doing something important. Forma just makes it all too clear that you're wasting your time on a video game, especially when you realize that all you're doing is adding a little symbol on your mod page so you can give it more damage.

 

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Formas used to drop like candy for me in the Void, but the other week I ran 35 T1-3 Captures and while I got a bunch of credits, I only got a single Forma out of that nonsense.

But you're still doing the grinding regardless. I personally can't stand the idea of wasted experience. Im also one of those kinds of people who are always experimenting with the most powerful builds. Those combinations of mods are not always possible with the standard amount of mod points.

It's the whole process of becoming stronger. Like in Diablo 2, I used to love watching that exp bar fill up. Was it a grind? yes. The devs went out of their way to make it even more of one. But it's still just as enjoyable back then as it is now.

[birdei]

people don't hate them, its just at that certain point in time/mission they are not looking for it but looking for something else. With you bailing out for a forma while the rest is after something else, they see it as their odds of getting said item dropped. Losing 1/4 of the groups productivity can be hard for the rest of the group in later waves.

 

Now I dunno how long you guys were in the T4 def but if its in the later waves where you feel it would be foolish to continue on, I would leave at the first sign of a good reward too.

[TwoCrabs]

well Im close to using my 250th forma :3
they give me something to do in the game and I "get to know" some weapons, which I though were usless and mastery fodder
I mean dont tell me that an unformad sybaris is able to hit 20k per bullet. tis all about dat forma.

cus....

Forma is love, Forma is life

[Trowicia]

I hate Forma when I'm specifically looking for something other than Forma, and I appreciate Forma when I'm specifically leveling gear.

 

It's a vicious cycle I tell you what. I don't see a reason why we should belittle others celebrating the acquisition of Forma though.

[FATEdPondera]

people don't hate them, its just at that certain point in time/mission they are not looking for it but looking for something else. With you bailing out for a forma while the rest is after something else, they see it as their odds of getting said item dropped. Losing 1/4 of the groups productivity can be hard for the rest of the group in later waves.

 

Now I dunno how long you guys were in the T4 def but if its in the later waves where you feel it would be foolish to continue on, I would leave at the first sign of a good reward too.

We made it to wave 20. The one who insulted me took off at wave 15 for a frame part. It was starting to get really difficult to defend the pod, so we agreed to get out first chance we got.

And what was the wave 20 reward? Forma. Looks like RNGesus does have a sense of humor.

[zerogear5]

forma used to be really common like sell the bp common.

[CapnFusterCluck]

While I do not dislike them as construction material, I hate them because the polarizing makes equipment all too powerful. Classic example is Boltor Prime. 

"4x Forma Boltor Prime. game too ez"

 

:|

[Noble_Cactus]

But you're still doing the grinding regardless. I personally can't stand the idea of wasted experience. Im also one of those kinds of people who are always experimenting with the most powerful builds. Those combinations of mods are not always possible with the standard amount of mod points.

It's the whole process of becoming stronger. Like in Diablo 2, I used to love watching that exp bar fill up. Was it a grind? yes. The devs went out of their way to make it even more of one. But it's still just as enjoyable back then as it is now.

 

My point is that it's not the grind itself that people hate, but what goes into the grind. If people hated grind they wouldn't be playing this game in the first place, or they would have quit after Month 1 (and plenty of players do that). When you're grinding in Diablo 2, you're running around in the game world killing stuff. It's meaningless, but at least you feel like  you're cleansing the world of demons or whatever. When you ding, you get to spend a skill point that gives your character more utility, more damage, etc.

 

Forma is similar, but I think it's soulless because you start from the bottom alllll over again each time. With traditional grinding, you're only getting better with each level.

[Vallerian]

I have like a billion Forma BPs, but it takes me like a week of farming to get 1 friggen neurode

[azour]

I never have enough formas

[(PSN)Superegg72]

If you were invited to someone else's void key and left at wave 5 for forma, then they have all the right to criticize you. Forma is nice, but not everyone is done farming all those prime parts.

[(PSN)SancticuS]

I have 34 forma's on my different gear, 9 unused in my inventory and 87 Forma Blueprints. So if I'm doing void missions I do them to get any other reward than forma blueprints. Though I don't see the reason for them bad mouthing and calling you stupid.

[Bassem]

Personally I love Formas, I can't have enough of them! I'm never unhappy when I get one (or a BP) as a reward. Even if it's not what I was searching for.

I'm always polarising stuff, again and again. Gimme dem Formas.

[Pansoy]

*cough*https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/302701-6-forma-kubrows/#entry3434771

I never run out of formas. I guess it's all just a matter of rng. If I love em or hate em, I guess I'd say both. Depends if I'm trying to farm for a prime part and all I get are formas.

[RoboDoge]

I would rather have Forma BP as reward, than a damn T2 *insert any type* key. Also, you cannot have enough of Formas.

[fatpig84]

I ran out of forma.....

 

Most of the guns that pique my interest get 4 to 5 forma MINIMUM.

Even weird ones like Embolist and Ignis.

[DBugII]

I like Forma, but I find it in many cases unnecessary. Ultimately, it makes End Game piss easy though.

[C.Aether]

You will never have enough formas.NEVER.

[CptFaustas]

You start gathering more forma BP than you can possibly make without rushing when you start farming for primes.

[(PSN)Deviljou]

I have forma'd my boar prime and Phage 5 times each (soon to be 6) and they both do multiple thousand points of elemental combo damage, high levels of punch through, and sport shotgun ammo mutations. Forma are clear paths of progression and without them, exp goes completely to waste.

So, tell me, internet.... whats the deal? Have we reached a point where players hate the time honored tradition of levelling up and acquiring high level gear?

 

LOL... 5 times formad Phage? One potato and 3 formas is enough and you get max out from Phage.So maybe you shouldnt forma Phage 6 times :D

[Leland_Gaunt]

Forma is the best thing ever in this game.

 

Forma all teh things!

[(PSN)friedricetheman]

I am a compulsive forma user.

I burn through forma faster than I could build them.

My clan mates and friends could attest to this.

Even Mirage has 3 forma on her and my sunika currently have 3 forma but I am adding another 3 to max out all the mods.

The thing about forma is either you love it or hate it. There is no middle ground.

The haters will grumble about relevelling a certain item again and again (if you are pumping more than one forma which is a given unless it is a Loki Prime, which only needs 1 forma, by the way).

The forma lovers (like myself and Darzk) will attest to the power of forma on any gear. I can bring ember prime into T4 survival and not only survive for 55 minutes easily but also top the scoreboard with only an Ignis.

Forma lovers will agree with me that builds without forma feels constricting and you will be sacrificing too much potential by not having forma'd gear.

Forma on gears is only done by hardcore players whom most likely have a lot of maxed mods. They couldn't possibly fit in all the maxed mods when only 60 points is available since serration is 14 points, heavy caliber at 16 and split chamber is 15. These 3 essential mods alone takes up three quarters of your mod allowance on gears without free polarities.

Please understand that there are a lot of casual players out there who are just enjoying the game by exploring the different weapons and frames that Warframe have to offer. Not many players would be willing to go an hour into T4 survival as it is a time consuming process (the time it takes to properly forma gears and also the time spent playing hour long survivals).