Cinderain Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 My main issue with this is that sliding by itself has little use in this game whatsoever now. There's still the slideslash, but I'm guessing that's getting removed too. Remember when people used Slide in this game without exploiting it to gain speed? I'm going to ignore your posts and assume you've been here long enough to know that people actually played normally and didn't care about anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) Remember when people used Slide in this game without exploiting it to gain speed? I'm going to ignore your posts and assume you've been here long enough to know that people actually played normally and didn't care about anything like this. When? What purpose does slide by itself serve other than to do John Woo style kills? I certainly didn't touch it. If there is a good reason, tell me so I can expand my own gameplay options. Edited April 19, 2013 by Pzychotix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 When? What purpose does slide by itself serve other than to do John Woo style kills? I certainly didn't touch it. If there is a good reason, tell me so I can expand my own gameplay options. To slide. /OMYGAWDGASP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 So in other words, my original post stands: My main issue with this is that sliding by itself has little use in this game whatsoever now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Expecting slide to do more than sliding by itself is pretty silly, but you would only use it because of an exploit? That's saddening. :< I love sliding down ramps and those huuuuge slopes on the planet maps. That's just plain fun. Combo-wise, I've always found Slide > Melee, Jump > Slide > Melee and Slide > Jump > Melee to be strong, useful tactics to enter combat with. Or a Slide > Jump to get out of combat or start a wallrun at a higher height. That, and pressing Slide is a good way to cancel a wallrun and catch onto a ledge. Edited April 20, 2013 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Expecting slide to do more than sliding by itself is pretty silly, but you would only use it because of an exploit? That's saddening. :< I love sliding down ramps and those huuuuge slopes on the planet maps. That's just plain fun. Combo-wise, I've always found Slide > Melee, Jump > Slide > Melee and Slide > Jump > Melee to be strong, useful tactics to enter combat with. Or a Slide > Jump to get out of combat or start a wallrun at a higher height. That, and pressing Slide is a good way to cancel a wallrun and catch onto a ledge. Well yeah. Why would I use it if there isn't any use to it? It doesn't even have the knockdown capabilities of jump slide. And I'm quite aware of slide > other stuff. I'm explicitly talking about slide by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Why would I use it if there isn't any use to it? I bet you're a frickin' blast and a bundle of laughs at parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) I bet you're a frickin' blast and a bundle of laughs at parties. Thanks for being constructive. Edited April 20, 2013 by Pzychotix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashmomo Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Yes, let's beat down all the emergent gameplay. This is a PvE game, these types of player-discovered things /should be/ embraced as part of the fun. Mostly they involve a high skill cap and a lot of practice, and finding new ways to utilize the movement system is something that keeps the vets engaged. It hurts no one. I don't understand the anger directed toward it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Yes, let's beat down all the emergent gameplay. This is a PvE game, these types of player-discovered things /should be/ embraced as part of the fun. Mostly they involve a high skill cap and a lot of practice, and finding new ways to utilize the movement system is something that keeps the vets engaged. It hurts no one. I don't understand the anger directed toward it. You're right, discovering hidden combos and skills should be part of the fun. Which is what people used to do. There were/are a ton of "secret" little things and places to find... that are intentional and don't exploit the game's engine. Oh, and if you don't know why people are angry, it's because people used it to rush through the maps and leave their squad behind. Which risked them getting overwhelmed and killed and missing out on mods and credits. Edited April 20, 2013 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Thanks for being constructive. Why would I be constructive about something so silly? You're too uptight. Not sliding because all it does is slide... pff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 You're right, discovering hidden combos and skills should be part of the fun. Which is what people used to do. There were/are a ton of "secret" little things and places to find... that are intentional and don't exploit the game's engine. Oh, and if you don't know why people are angry, it's because people used it to rush through the maps and leave their squad behind. Which risked them getting overwhelmed and killed and missing out on mods and credits. Come on, now. That's a terrible argument. You can still rush through and leave your squad members behind. Slide cancelling has nothing to do with that. That's just people rushing through while the rest of the team sits in a room and clears everything. It's going to happen regardless of even whether sprint exists or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Why would I be constructive about something so silly? You're too uptight. Not sliding because all it does is slide... pff. It's a valid criticism. Let it go and stop trying to be a $&*^ about things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaymoreNo47 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 There are always logical solutions for these kinds of problems. 1) its awesome 2) at the same time its not awesome ( you know what i mean it looks stupid hurts my fingers) 3) Therefore stuff it into a mod and leveling it up allows for a boasted dash 4) or make dashing cost some stamina so you can't use it and gain energy back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Come on, now. That's a terrible argument. You can still rush through and leave your squad members behind. Slide cancelling has nothing to do with that. That's just people rushing through while the rest of the team sits in a room and clears everything. It's going to happen regardless of even whether sprint exists or not. Terrible argument? People used it to rush, therefore others don't like that. That's just that. It's a valid criticism. Let it go and stop trying to be a $&*^ about things. As is mine, but I already jumped that high on the scale? I wonder where I'd be if I were vulgar and insulted people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokturnal Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Ok lemme just set some info straight. The fix today, fixed the whole pressing Crouch quickly while starting to slide to keep yourself sped up exploit. What you can still do... Slide + melee attack over and over. Quick way to speed yourself up, costs stamina though. Wallrun, you get a free speed boost when jumping off a wall. Just slide to regain stamina while still moving forward. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Ok lemme just set some info straight. The fix today, fixed the whole pressing Crouch quickly while starting to slide to keep yourself sped up exploit. What you can still do... Slide + melee attack over and over. Quick way to speed yourself up, costs stamina though. Wallrun, you get a free speed boost when jumping off a wall. Just slide to regain stamina while still moving forward. Anything else? Use Rush mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokturnal Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Use Rush mods. Well obviously lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Well obviously lol. k :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzychotix Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Terrible argument? People used it to rush, therefore others don't like that. That's just that. It doesn't help against rushers in the slightest. Therefore it's a terrible argument. I fail to see how you're not getting this. Edited April 20, 2013 by Pzychotix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzonatan Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Oh, and if you don't know why people are angry, it's because people used it to rush through the maps and leave their squad behind. Which risked them getting overwhelmed and killed and missing out on mods and credits. quite frankly... if the squad is prone to wipe because one member moved further to pursue the objective, then perhaps it is not that player rushing that is the problem? If you dont like people rushing and see it as a problem then prevent the possibility to rush further, not the means which have other use of that. I often rush way ahead on my team just bt sprinting or hell! even walk alone... What now? Remove sprint or hard lock rooms untill they are cleared? You cant fix play style especially be blocking the tools. Rushers will find another one and will rush just as hard untill you will realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenKingErzon Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 It costs additional Stamina anyways. No it does not. If done correctly, does not use stamina, and actually lets you recover stamina while going a bit faster than your normal sprint speed. (it will always be faster than your sprint speed even with sprint mods since the speed is based off your sprint.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darjian Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Today, before they fixed this, I saw a Frost doing the Sprint Slide. I'm also playing as Frost in this mission and I must say when I saw him do that I started laughing because I sprinted and outran him LOL. I even did the Slide Jump Slide combo and got further! After that I did a backflip in extraction and watched him attemp and figure out how I did it. Made my day. Oh, and I have rush and marathon maxed out. Edited April 20, 2013 by Darjian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 It doesn't help against rushers in the slightest. Therefore it's a terrible argument. I fail to see how you're not getting this. I fail to see how you don't get that he asked for a reason and I gave him one. Stop overthinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyfe3rX Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 IT NEED TO BE FIXED , WHEN I MEAN FIXED... FIXED AND REMOVED ! Seriously, i was seeing Rhinos getting past my Rush max leveled loki, which isnt nice to watch. I wanted a fix, i contacted support, they agreed and we got a fix thats it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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