Crimson Dervish V Iron Phoenix

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

Title speaks for itself. Which one is better? I've had crimson derv for a while, but I just picked up iron phoenix today. I've heard a few people say IP is better than CD, so I ask the community, which is better, and why?

[SYLUX6574]

CD has very heavy hitting but slow hits (300 percent damage on first three hits of any combo)

IP is faster but has no damage bonus

it really depends on your play style

[thelastpwnr99]

Iron Phoenix is better for closing gaps and those glorious auto-proc combos...but Crimson Dervish gives a 300% damage boost.  The preference in builds is strong, but overall, IP is for chasing and fast slashes, whereas CD is for DAMAGE.

[(PSN)IIIDevoidIII]

Moved to a more appropriate section.

[Sixty5]

It comes down to personal preference on the setup. Dervish hits like a truck, but is slow and rather clunky.

Iron phoenix on the other hand gives you utility, with an increased proc chance on the lunge and a nice stun combo.

Really it depends on what I want. If I'm going for a gun based build, I'd rather take a CD Dakra prime, simply because it hits hard, and I will only be using quick melee.

However if I'm running a melee build, I'd much rather use an IP Heat Sword. The innate high proc chance on it, as well as the proc on the lunge lets me shred enemies with the right procs.

Secondly, the stun combo will proc the heat swords fire explosion, setting nearby enemies on fire, which is always satisfying

Finally I like to run that sort of thing on Ash, and given his ult scales off combo multiplier, I'd much rather a large number of weaker strikes to stack that up.

Bladestorm will hit harder than any melee weapon

[Magnar21]

Yes, the two stances are well balanced, and serve different purposes. CD is your "feel like a heavy shortsword" weapon, while IP is mobility, utility, and proc based. Take your pick, and pick something that complements your loadout. And it's always a good idea to try everything, and find what suits you most.

[X3Evanescence]

It comes down to personal preference on the setup. Dervish hits like a truck, but is slow and rather clunky.

Iron phoenix on the other hand gives you utility, with an increased proc chance on the lunge and a nice stun combo.

Really it depends on what I want. If I'm going for a gun based build, I'd rather take a CD Dakra prime, simply because it hits hard, and I will only be using quick melee.

However if I'm running a melee build, I'd much rather use an IP Heat Sword. The innate high proc chance on it, as well as the proc on the lunge lets me shred enemies with the right procs.

Secondly, the stun combo will proc the heat swords fire explosion, setting nearby enemies on fire, which is always satisfying

Finally I like to run that sort of thing on Ash, and given his ult scales off combo multiplier, I'd much rather a large number of weaker strikes to stack that up.

Bladestorm will hit harder than any melee weapon

This.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

It comes down to personal preference on the setup. Dervish hits like a truck, but is slow and rather clunky.

Iron phoenix on the other hand gives you utility, with an increased proc chance on the lunge and a nice stun combo.

Really it depends on what I want. If I'm going for a gun based build, I'd rather take a CD Dakra prime, simply because it hits hard, and I will only be using quick melee.

However if I'm running a melee build, I'd much rather use an IP Heat Sword. The innate high proc chance on it, as well as the proc on the lunge lets me shred enemies with the right procs.

Secondly, the stun combo will proc the heat swords fire explosion, setting nearby enemies on fire, which is always satisfying

Finally I like to run that sort of thing on Ash, and given his ult scales off combo multiplier, I'd much rather a large number of weaker strikes to stack that up.

Bladestorm will hit harder than any melee weapon

Well, since my Rhino is more for hitting like a truck (with dread and a vasto) I think Crimson Derv would suit me better :P

Thanks.

[Karamethien]

Does stance affect quick melee?

[Tails-san]

Does stance affect quick melee?

 

To my knowledge, no.

[Dasmir]

Crimson Dervish becouse power creep.