Arabaxus Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) This mod is stupid considering it gives a basically 27% worth of stats for an entire slot and 16 bloody cost. The fact you can't put this with Blind Rage just makes any Blind Rage oriented build use Intensify, which is basically better than this, considering it gives 30% worth of stats for less cost. Edited October 24, 2014 by Arabaxus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgebanks Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) WHAT do you mean we can't equip both? Welp there goes my farmin' Change your title to: Can't use "Blind Rage and Transient Fortitude together" to grab attention Edited October 24, 2014 by Ishki88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PoeticProdigal Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Read, u cannot use it with blind rage, so no, it's not good! 87% power stre vs 130%? Do the math :) You read! Who said anything about using it with Blind Rage??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inappropriatename5818 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm thinking Bladestorm spam Ash and Mag should be really good with this, since efficiency is bigger on her now that she can use all abilities, not just pull and shield polarize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePresident777 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Why sacrifice duration over energy efficiency? They are both two halves of the same coin, except in circumstances like Miasma, or small groups of enemies, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koed Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 basically 90% of the augmentations , mods , syndicate mods are either useless or utterly pointless.... why even bother... Im sad to say I actually feel the same way... I honestly expected a lot more... Wait, why not? Does the game prevent you from equipping both mods at the same time, or do the Power Strength boosts from the mods overwrite each other or something? If it's the latter case, then it might just be a bug. Game prevents you - not possible to equip both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgebanks Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 ITT: People who still can't build a proper Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingSentry Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) It definitely needs to change, we need to be able to stack them. We need more power strength mods to compare with the bazillion weapon damage mods to bring damage abilties up to par. They give us another 1 (that also has a substantial negative penalty with it) and it doesn't even stack! What a wasted opportunity. Edited October 25, 2014 by SleepingSentry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxpferTH Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) This mod work best with saryn no tick dmg 25 energy cost to ancient infect ( around 5800 dmg on charger and anything else but on ancient it up to 10k ) Edited October 25, 2014 by VioletX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 ITT: People who still can't build a proper Ash. "lol people who dont have the same build as me suck at the game and dont know what theyre doing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSI_Kryptix Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There are many nonsensical stuff that has been released with U15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastianx Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 My rhino has range + efficiency build, and cramming power strength in there for iron skin, but due to blind rage's efficiency reduction I can't really get much power without making my stomp cost more than 25 energy (which I don't want)...so the moment I get this moment it WILL replace my blind rage because it gives almost double the strength my current one does, without any drawbacks on my skin and stomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSignal Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 >U15 >Removes 2 slots from Warframes and forces us all to use all of the Warframe's abilities >New mods can't be used together Boy, this update makes me feel like I'm being forced a play-style... Why would you complain about being allowed to use all abilities? In fact, why complain about the slot reduction? If you had only 2 powers equipped on average, it's not like you lost anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Why would you complain about being allowed to use all abilities? In fact, why complain about the slot reduction? If you had only 2 powers equipped on average, it's not like you lost anything. Lack of diversity in builds, and if by a chance you had 1 ability equipped you actually lost 1 slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzdet Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Farmed Transient and was pretty excited once i got it to throw this into my Rhino P build and stack it with BR. Imagine my disappointment when i saw the red flashing indicators when I saw I couldnt stack the two...IMO doesnt make sense, both mods offer a drawback for Pstr so I should be allowed to stack them >.< GRRRRR -fuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNegikunx Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'll probably use this more often than Blind Rage, I hate taking a hit to efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Why would you complain about being allowed to use all abilities? In fact, why complain about the slot reduction? If you had only 2 powers equipped on average, it's not like you lost anything. People customised builds, meaning they removed most- if not all- of their abilities to suit their play-style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSignal Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Lack of diversity in builds, and if by a chance you had 1 ability equipped you actually lost 1 slots. Where's diversity lacking? In not being able to remove powers? Does one extra slot really make that much of a difference in the long run? About Transient Fortitude though, It can't stand as a viable option on its own as a rank 10 mod that takes up just as many points as Blind Rage without delivering the same percentage of increase. If TF is mutually exclusive from BR, it should either cost less mod points, or deliver the same percentage. Edited October 26, 2014 by DarkSignal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenrihr89 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 i do see the point to can't stack this mod with blind rage and intensify... when we can stack narrow minded, continuity and constitution whitout problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) DarkSignal, on 26 Oct 2014 - 02:04 AM, said: Where's diversity lacking? In not being able to remove powers? Does one extra slot really make that much of a difference in the long run? Well....you asked. You can no longer create unique specialized builds as every warframe now are the same. You can no longer equip low level rank ability mods to get a different benefit from the full rank. You can no longer equip full rank ability mods on a new frame or after forma because you have to level the skills again, That means you are not able choose which skills you will use on your warframe. Iron Skin / Stomp for Rhino is not unlocked before later as an example which makes you stuck with Charge no matter what. Same applies to any frame. You can no longer remove ability mods to lower your conclave rating which is a possible problem for future tactical alerts as I mentioned in this thread: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/327518-tactical-alerts-issue-after-ability-removal/ One slot also make a difference. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/326232-for-all-of-us-who-use-only-1-ability-mod/ So even though you don't seem to see it a lot of options were actually removed by implementing that change. Edited October 26, 2014 by (PS4)SancticuS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I just don't get why power strength is a problem when most abilities are either capped or already have trouble in end-game content due to how they scale. While Transient Fortitude would make some abilities even stronger, already having a +129% increase means that the +55% would only be a 43% increase. I just don't see this being game-breaking. Can anyone think of a skill where going from 129% to 184% would simply be OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draciusen Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I just don't get why power strength is a problem when most abilities are either capped or already have trouble in end-game content due to how they scale. While Transient Fortitude would make some abilities even stronger, already having a +129% increase means that the +55% would only be a 43% increase. I just don't see this being game-breaking. Can anyone think of a skill where going from 129% to 184% would simply be OP? Frosts bubble takes 0.3 seconds longer to die at high levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinryusai Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 basically 90% of the augmentations , mods , syndicate mods are either useless or utterly pointless.... why even bother... What about Mirage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaGoFast Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Read, u cannot use it with blind rage, so no, it's not good! 87% power stre vs 130%? Do the math :) Duration =/= Efficiency. Do the reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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