(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Its obvious why DE allowed the void trader to see Jolt, its because they are fed up with the greed and profiteering in the market trades. Its a shame, as people do events to get the mods and want them to be exclusive. So its simple, to stop the greed and profiteering - do not allow limited event mods to be traded. Instead we have event mods being put up for sale by the void trader, as a direct response to the greed of people charging stupid prices for them. Thats not a free market, thats a broken market. Event mods should remain exclusively for those that did the events to get them. Those doing events simply to get mods to sell, need to be made unable to do that. Selling Jolt and other event mods is not the way to stop the broken market, as new players will always join the game and want to pay high prices for those mods. Instead stop the whole thing altogether. Simply make all event mods non tradeable. Rerun the events at random every so often, say once a year or every couple of years, so that new players get the chance to earn those mods. No doubt the ones exploiting the trading system to make plat will not like it, but to be frank if they were only doing the events to get the mods to trade them, then they didnt deserve to have them in the first place. Edited April 18, 2015 by (PS4)thehoocodfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 DE gets more money if people buy more platinum because prices are inflated, what do you think Warframe is? a socialist paradise or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No doubt the ones exploiting the trading system to make plat will not like it, but to be frank if they were only doing the events to get the mods to trade them, then they didnt deserve to have them in the first place. People should have the right to do and play how they like regardless if you deem them unworthy. Making event mods even more scarse will only punish people more for missing them. Besides if people buy platinum to get mods they are supporting the game so I really don't see any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzenfloss Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 1: you can never break a "Free Market" 2: your just Bitter Salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I don't think anyone wants to pay high prices for anything, especially not new players. And I think that assuming new players want to shovel out oodles of platinum for any reason is a flawed way of thinking. That's like saying that people who have never been to a McDonalds want to pay a lot of money for a meal. That being said, the fire and ice event mods are obtainable from Spy 2.0 missions anyway, poison from Void Vor, and now electric from Baro Ki'teer. Leaving the electric mods as completely exclusive would be counter-intuitive when compared with the recent trend. People should have the right to do and play how they like regardless if you deem them unworthy. Making event mods even more scarse will only punish people more for missing them. Besides if people buy platinum to get mods they are supporting the game so I really don't see any problem. Pretty much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 DE gets more money if people buy more platinum because prices are inflated, what do you think Warframe is? a socialist paradise or something? I want Warframe to be a meritocracy, where people get mods based on them deserving to get them for completing alerts. And by the way, restricting the sale of event mods is not socialism. Allocating all mods to everyone regardless of merit would be socialism. Which is as imbecilic as allowing the richest players to buy what they want and pay to win simply as they have the most money. Thereby creating a self replicating cycle of rewards as the richest players can buy the best mods which allow them to finish the harder events to get the best mods which allow them to finish the harder events ad nauseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigsAndMice Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 What the hell? They were always going to be rereleased, they were never and should never be exclusive. It has nothing to do with the market. And the market is free, so people can sell or BUY at what prices they are comfortable at. I don't even know how one can EXPLOIT the trade system, it's simply trade. It depends on what people are trading on it. Let them do whatever, why do you care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 1: you can never break a "Free Market" 2: your just Bitter Salt. 1) There is no such thing as a Free Market. Its a fairy tale that grown ups believe in. 2) I have 2 Jolts and all the events mods. I am not Bitter Salt. But I guess you would be if they stopped trading the mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheArrowOfGod Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Jolt is coming. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 What the hell? They were always going to be rereleased, they were never and should never be exclusive. It has nothing to do with the market. And the market is free, so people can sell or BUY at what prices they are comfortable at. I don't even know how one can EXPLOIT the trade system, it's simply trade. It depends on what people are trading on it. Let them do whatever, why do you care. Why do I care. Because the richest players buy the best mods that then allow them to complete the hardest events and obtain the best mods et al. I want the richest players to earn their mods, not buy them. Spolit little rich mummys boys annoy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I want Warframe to be a meritocracy, where people get mods based on them deserving to get them for completing alerts. With that sentiment you basically want to disallow trades as anyone buying anything have not "deserved" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigsAndMice Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I want Warframe to be a meritocracy, where people get mods based on them deserving to get them for completing alerts. And by the way, restricting the sale of event mods is not socialism. Allocating all mods to everyone regardless of merit would be socialism. Which is as imbecilic as allowing the richest players to buy what they want and pay to win simply as they have the most money. Thereby creating a self replicating cycle of rewards as the richest players can buy the best mods which allow them to finish the harder events to get the best mods which allow them to finish the harder events ad nauseum. Honestly, they aren't the best mods or "win" mods by any means. They are nice to have but by no means are you not going to play successfully if you don't have there mods. Just stack on forma, standard damage mods and rainbow build and go win any event easily. May I ask why you are thinking about this? What event/encounter has made you ponder this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzenfloss Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 1) There is no such thing as a Free Market. Its a fairy tale that grown ups believe in. 2) I have 2 Jolts and all the events mods. I am not Bitter Salt. But I guess you would be if they stopped trading the mods. No Matter what you do, Jolt is here again, Deal with it. Fill up the "Hurt Feelings Report" and send it to Baro LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 With that sentiment you basically want to disallow trades as anyone buying anything have not "deserved" it. Yes, thats right. Dont bother actually critiquing what I wrote, critique what I did not write. You must be a genius or somefink. No Matter what you do, Jolt is here again, Deal with it. Fill up the "Hurt Feelings Report" and send it to Baro LOL! Dont forget to ask mummy for some more pocket money, you can buy the mod instead of earning it via merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigsAndMice Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 You are equaling money with best mods. The fact that I have never spent plat on getting mods (have always farmed or traded mod for mod) to get all the "best" (see the quotes) says that it is easily obtainable without buying. Money is most definately NOT the only way to progress and get good stuff in Warframe. Enjoy the game, learn it's intricacies, and success will be your mistress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Honestly, they aren't the best mods or "win" mods by any means. They are nice to have but by no means are you not going to play successfully if you don't have there mods. Just stack on forma, standard damage mods and rainbow build and go win any event easily. May I ask why you are thinking about this? What event/encounter has made you ponder this? The fact that some people are paying hundreds of plat for a mod is absurd. The fact that it means players who havent earnt those exclusive event mods by merit, but can just buy them in the market, demeans not just the player base but the whole ethos of the game itself. Pay To Win is rightly looked down upon as the grubbiest form of gaming. Its not what Warframe is or should ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega114 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 'Greed and Profiteering'? By your logic here with the 'rich mummys boys' (in which you should learn to grammar.) Are buying mods from players who don't have plat... meaning that the REAL people benefitting from this is those who are unable to pay for plat, or simply just don't want to. It's up to the sellers and buyers how much they are willing to pay. By keeping the items exclusive, which in time they won't be, they are creating a desired item in which only drives people to obtain them in the given time, if that desire is fuelled by the want to sell it for high plat prices then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 You are equaling money with best mods. The fact that I have never spent plat on getting mods (have always farmed or traded mod for mod) to get all the "best" (see the quotes) says that it is easily obtainable without buying. Money is most definately NOT the only way to progress and get good stuff in Warframe. Enjoy the game, learn it's intricacies, and success will be your mistress And that is exactly what I respect and support. Rich players can buy the best frames, best guns, best gear etc. JUST DONT ALLOW THEM TO BUY THE EVENT MODS THAT SHOULD BE EARNED SOLELY BY MERIT ! Have one section of this game that is exclusively about merit and merit alone ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instead Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Why do I care. Because the richest players buy the best mods that then allow them to complete the hardest events and obtain the best mods et al. I want the richest players to earn their mods, not buy them. Spolit little rich mummys boys annoy me. Good luck, Mr. DonQuixote.Meanwhile, WTS Frost Prime set 300p, pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosdreamer Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I actually don't feel the need to defend , like I can't get primed chamber , you shouldnd be able to get jolt , Exclusive should remain exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzenfloss Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 JUST DONT ALLOW THEM TO BUY THE EVENT MODS THAT SHOULD BE EARNED SOLELY BY MERIT ! poor kid, baro really hurt your feelings (¤_¤) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Good luck, Mr. DonQuixote. Meanwhile, WTS Frost Prime set 300p, pm Feel free to sell your Frost Prime set. This may come as a shock. Frost Prime is not an exclusive event mod. Sorry, if no one else told you that until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 poor kid, baro really hurt your feelings (¤_¤) What bit of 'I did the event, I got 2 Jolt mods and all the other event mods including High Voltage, so its not an issue for me personally, its a matter of principle' did you miss ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigsAndMice Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 The fact that some people are paying hundreds of plat for a mod is absurd. The fact that it means players who havent earnt those exclusive event mods by merit, but can just buy them in the market, demeans not just the player base but the whole ethos of the game itself. Pay To Win is rightly looked down upon as the grubbiest form of gaming. Its not what Warframe is or should ever be. I know what you are feeling, I felt it when Prime Trading became a thing. I worked so hard on getting all my stuff, and felt it was undone in one day. Then I realized it doesn't make my achievements any less. I had fun doing what I did. If I understand you correctly, you want the mods to stay exclusive to an event, untradeable, but having the event come every so often so all players can get them? Honestly, I can see that working and reduce a lot of hassle or refarming. Make it a quest with one time rewards, but replayable for lore or fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzenfloss Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Jolt Acquisition This mod was acquired by scoring beyond 250 points in the Tethra's Doom event. This mod, along with the other Tethra's Doom mods, was made available again during Operation: Mutalist Incursions as a drop in the unlockable Survival mission. [1] Jolt is now offered as a periodic item for sale by Baro Ki'Teer , costing "You Mad bro?" LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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