Feneckus Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 How can a mod be that rare ? Since its release, I've killed more than 26,000 (!) Infested on Xini. I picked up half a dozen rare fusion cores, a few multishots, plenty of rare abilities, a couple of puncture mods, three Enemy Radars but Thunderbolt is nowhere to be found. It's getting extremely frustrating ... Just let me pay five or ten bucks for that mod, I can't take it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Which multishots? I might start farming xini again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebreccer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Just let me pay five or ten bucks for that mod, I can't take it anymore. Make that 50? https://warframe.com/buyplatinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Holy Smokes! That's less than .003846% chance. My guestimation at roughly 400 infested per 20 wave run (team play) that's about 65 runs at 40 minutes a piece. That's like 43 hours... and you still haven't gotten it. I'm not going to even try then.. Sigh... I feel for ya brother... Really... $50 to buy it... The only consolation I have for not being in a hot rush to get it for $50 is that it may be potentially nerfed if I do... Exploding arrows is cool, but yeah... I dunno about this... Edited May 16, 2013 by sushidubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregio Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I bought three dragon mod packs. Got all three new mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kantazo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I heard the numver is 260 000 no 26k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feneckus Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I know I can buy it for $50, but for that price, I might as well upgrade to the Master Founder package. Makes more sense. Which multishots? I might start farming xini again... Rifle. Three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I bought three dragon mod packs. Got all three new mods. I refuse to blow plats on those anymore. Got screwed on about 4-5 packs with ability mods for frames I didn't have only to have those same rare abilities turn to uncommon ones later on. But nice goin' man. I'm happy for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I know I can buy it for $50, but for that price, I might as well upgrade to the Master Founder package. Makes more sense. Rifle. Three of them. Blast... I need pistol and shotgun :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungorisz Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) 12 warframe - 26 rare ability mods (2 for each, but mag got 4 rare) 17 rare mod, lest count half cause the drop rate of factions, that ~9 1 rare fusion core ----- Total 44 rare mods. Count with 36 rare mod, cause the factionsm that u can found when a rare mod drops ... And rare mods are rare indeed, so let's say that 1 of 20 mods are rare, so you theorically got the thunderbolt after 720 mods ... if you're lucky Numbers are just guesses to show you've got a real low chance on getting 1 specific mod Edited May 16, 2013 by Ungorisz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaxNyu Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Isn't the Thunderbolt-Mod a new one? That makes your "26k kills since release" argument completely invalid. Edited May 16, 2013 by ZaxNyu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyfe3rX Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Same here...still looking for that Bloody ThunderBolt. While i got over 50 Rare mods, 200+ Mods in total ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Isn't the Thunderbolt-Mod a new one? That makes your "26k kills since release" argument completely invalid. Unless he ment 26k after the release of Thunderbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yep, I tried and did the math. Let's say: - mod drop rate is around 10%: a mod every 10 mobs killed (probably less than that actually) - rare mod drop rate is around 5%: a rare mod every 20 mod drops (probably less than that, again) - the infested mod loot table contains around 26 rare mods (2 per frame, and 2 more from Mag), plus Thunderbolt now: so it's 1/27 chance to get it; if they all have the same chance to drop So, the chance to drop it is around...not much (0.0185% to be precise) It's just that the infested loot table is soooooo full of cr*p, literally T.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaxNyu Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yep, I tried and did the math. Let's say: - mod drop rate is around 10%: a mod every 10 mobs killed (probably less than that actually) - rare mod drop rate is around 5%: a rare mod every 20 mod drops (probably less than that, again) - the infested mod loot table contains around 26 rare mods (2 per frame, and 2 more from Mag), plus Thunderbolt now: so it's 1/27 chance to get it; if they all have the same chance to drop So, the chance to drop it is around...not much (0.0185% to be precise) It's just that the infested loot table is soooooo full of cr*p, literally T.T AFAIK, every faction can drop every mod. Only the chances are (slightly?) different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 AFAIK, every faction can drop every mod. Only the chances are (slightly?) different. That's the going theory. I wish it was a little clearer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstic Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Blast... I need pistol and shotgun :-/ They drop from infested too. I've gotten all 3 multishots from farming Xini multiple times. Hell's Chamber is the most common one I get. Still no Thunderbolt. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feneckus Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Isn't the Thunderbolt-Mod a new one? That makes your "26k kills since release" argument completely invalid. I said since its release. I know I had around 9k Infested kills before it came out. Stopped playing against them because I find them a bit boring and I played mobile defense exclusively. Now I have 35k Infested kills ... I think I picked up every single rare mod they can drop at least twice, but no Thunderbolt ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 AFAIK, every faction can drop every mod. Only the chances are (slightly?) different. If it's true, than the chance is even lower... Bottom line is: Please DE, never add a new mod to the infested loot table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feneckus Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 That's the going theory. I wish it was a little clearer though. It's no theory. According to the wiki, mods like Rifle Multishot, Hornet Strike, Serration aren't supposed to be dropped by Infested, but I did get those while farming Xini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's no theory. According to the wiki, mods like Rifle Multishot, Hornet Strike, Serration aren't supposed to be dropped by Infested, but I did get those while farming Xini. What? Did you read the guy I quoted. He didn't mention the wiki at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feneckus Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 What? Did you read the guy I quoted. He didn't mention the wiki at all... Just saying that it seems true that every faction can drop any given mod. I didn't pick up a lot of Hornet Strikes/Serrations though vs Infested, much better odds on Grineer mobile defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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