HandsomeSorcerer Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Lets start: Warframes: Loki disarm. Irrad disarm Nova Molecular Prime Frost Globe Mesa Peacemaker Valkyr Hysteria Saryn Masma Limbo Riftwalk Hydroid tentacle spam Excalibur new 4th Weapons Primary: Braton Prime Damage Amprex Damage. Chain fire is broken and too OP Boltor Prime damage and recoil Dread critchance Paris prime critchance Torid ammo count Opticor Ammo count Tonkor Crit chance and ammo count Phage damage Quanta/quanta vandal altfire too much damage Synapse single fire damage Soma and soma prime crit damage or base damage Weapons Secondary Synoid gammacor (Still too op), needs damage nerf. Marelok or vaykor marelok. Too much damage Rakta balistica Damage too high Brakk too much damage,rate of fire too high Detron or mara detron Radiation damge should be switched to puncture, because all plasma weapons deal puncutre damage. Magnus or Akmagnus, too much critchance. Furis alfuris or dex furis, too much fire-rate. Damage is fine Atomos. Broken like the amprex. Chain fire is too OP AkJagara. Damage too high Aksomati They were fine, DE buffed it too much. Nerf reload rate back to what it was. Hikou or Hikou Prime or Despair Too much damage. Melee weapons Most have too much damage Notable examples: Scindo prime or scindo Galantine Bo or Bo Prime Tipedo Too good as copetring Dakra Prime Jat Kittag Sentinels Carriers vacuum is too good. Needs to be reworked or removed. Kubrows They outclass sentinels. They need to be nerfed, especially the mods. Enemies: Ancient Hooks Bombards Homing missiles Nullifiers Shields/bubble should go down much easier, especially with hard hitting guns.Spawn rate needs nerfing Mutalist moa jumping Manic erratic teleporting too offten ancients debuff auroas. All of them. Hellions Too much damage Gunner,bombard mandatory close range AOE needs to be reworked. Disclaimer: In order for WF to be balanced, these things need to be looked at. If someone advocates to nerf one of such thing, it is only a bandaid fix, it doesnt address the core problems of the game. If anything need to be added, post down below. Either everything needs to be reworked or nothing. There is no middle ground here. Edited July 4, 2015 by HandsomeSorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayden_Tenno Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Warframe 2.0. Although i think the REAL problem behind all this are the mods, not the weapons/frames themselves. Edited July 4, 2015 by Rayden_Tenno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slykidd Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 instead of just saying no ill just why? this is a PvE game after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Most of that should not be nerfed at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverSniper Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I don't understand why the heck would they nerf anythng ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingdude100 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Detron? Needs to be Nerfed? The hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHog Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Tipedo Too good as copetring First of all, the entire list is wrong, and just downright stupid. 'NERF EVERYTHING' Trinity too, while you're at it? Either way, coptering is getting removed, so you can strike that out. Really, that one pissed me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCurtennoxX Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) It's people like you on this earth that sadden me. What the heck is the point of this thread? It doesn't even have a reasoning, and all of these "suggestions" are ridiculous on every level Limbo's riftwalk? SERIOUSLY? QUICK GUYS LET'S TAKE AWAY THE MAIN PART OF HIS KIT AS IF HE WASN'T ALREADY DIFFICULT TO PLAY Judging by this list, you're wanting nerfs on nearly EVERY good thing in the game. Have you even tried killing enemies level 60+? Clearly not. If you have, you'd know that you kinda need damage and CC to actually deal with them. Seriously, i don't understand how your brain is working right now. Edited July 4, 2015 by XxCurtennoxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nep_Blanc Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Lets start: Warframes: Loki disarm. Irrad disarm Nova Molecular Prime Frost Globe Mesa Peacemaker Valkyr Hysteria Saryn Masma Limbo Riftwalk Hydroid tentacle spam Excalibur new 4th Weapons Primary: Braton Prime Damage Amprex Damage. Chain fire is broken and too OP Boltor Prime damage and recoil Dread critchance Paris prime critchance Torid ammo count Opticor Ammo count Tonkor Crit chance and ammo count Phage damage Quanta/quanta vandal altfire too much damage Synapse single fire damage Soma and soma prime crit damage or base damage Weapons Secondary Synoid gammacor (Still too op), needs damage nerf. Marelok or vaykor marelok. Too much damage Rakta balistica Damage too high Brakk too much damage,rate of fire too high Detron or mara detron Too much damage, rate of fire too high Magnus or Akmagnus, too much critchance. Furis alfuris or dex furis, too much fire-rate. Damage is fine Atomos. Broken like the amprex. Chain fire is too OP AkJagara. Damage too high Aksomati They were fine, DE buffed it too much. Nerf reload rate back to what it was. Hikou or Hikou Prime or Despair Too much damage. Melee weapons Most have too much damage Notable examples: Scindo prime or scindo Galantine Bo or Bo Prime Tipedo Too good as copetring Dakra Prime Jat Kittag Sentinels Carriers vacuum is too good. Needs to be reworked or removed. Kubrows They outclass sentinels. They need to be nerfed, especially the mods. Enemies: Ancient Hooks Bombards Homing missiles Nullifiers Shields/bubble should go down much easier, especially with hard hitting guns.Spawn rate needs nerfing Mutalist moa jumping Manic erratic teleporting too offten ancients debuff auroas. All of them. Hellions Too much damage Gunner,bombard mandatory close range AOE needs to be reworked. Disclaimer: In order for WF to be balanced, these things need to be looked at. If someone advocates to nerf one of such thing, it is only a bandaid fix, it doesnt address the core problems of the game. If anything need to be added, post down below. Either everything needs to be reworked or nothing. There is no middle ground here. haha you make me smile and grin. You literally think that these all are op? Its a PvE game come on and if you go endless you die eventually because you are a fly on a elephant. also coptering gets removed because people say It is soo op PLS remove DE. Its a great way of moving trough a map and the new movement 2.0 preview looked hideous it was so not nice that I despise the devs that worked on it. Some mobs need a nerf totally like bombard missiles and nullifiers shields, those 2 are way tooo op. Not even complaining about the Grineer Manic and Manic Bombard who's movement are way too op, only way to counter them is nova and melee. Also you saying that warframes need nerfs is so crude against new players and totally not justified. they do not have mods anyways. Enough said..... Chao, The Roaring Lion Warlord of Shadow Lords Edited July 4, 2015 by TheRoaringLion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLERINERT Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I wanted to go through every thing you listed and explain why they don't need a nerf, but then I thought. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCurtennoxX Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Can we just appreciate how he's complaining about Marelok yet he wants a AkMarelok?!? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/473909-akmarelok/#entry5278892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact6 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Off course kubrows are stronger then sentinels. They got way more upkeep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysus41 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Do not make big lists of things that need to be changed with absolutely zero reasons as to why any of it should be changed. It seems like a good portion of this list was made with "feels" rather than actual evidence and numbers backing it up (ie: i "feel" that all melee weapons deal too much damage) If you really want to leave feedback, take each part of the list, make an individual thread for them, and give reasons and evidence as to why it should be changed, and have ideas on how they could be changed. what you've done here is just lazy. If you care enough to give feedback, then you should also care enough to give good feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nep_Blanc Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Can we just appreciate how he's complaining about Marelok yet he wants a AkMarelok?!? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/473909-akmarelok/#entry5278892 Really this guy. Also WTF OP that is lying against yourself. Chao, The Roaring Lion Warlord of Shadow Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeSorcerer Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Can we just appreciate how he's complaining about Marelok yet he wants a AkMarelok?!? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/473909-akmarelok/#entry5278892 Read disclaimer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCurtennoxX Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Read disclaimer... That has nothing to do with the fact that you've listed all this stuff with zero reasoning at all. It's terrible feedback and shouldn't even be classed as feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nep_Blanc Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Read disclaimer... uh not seeing it no disclaimer words there. Chao, The Roaring Lion Warlord of Shadow Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeSorcerer Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) That has nothing to do with the fact that you've listed all this stuff with zero reasoning at all. It's terrible feedback and shouldn't even be classed as feedback. zero feedback? What? Have you read what I wrote beside on most of the items in the list? Take for example the Tonkor. Its broken because its crit chance or crit damge allow it to do way to much damage. uh not seeing it no disclaimer words there. Chao, The Roaring Lion Warlord of Shadow Lords Disclaimer: In order for WF to be balanced, these things need to be looked at. If someone advocates to nerf one of such thing, it is only a bandaid fix, it doesnt address the core problems of the game. If anything need to be added, post down below. Either everything needs to be reworked or nothing. There is no middle ground here. There are many broken items in the game and nerfing one of them isnt going to adress the vast majority. Edited July 4, 2015 by HandsomeSorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantProxy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Ah, another 'Greedy Mag is nerfed, nerf everything else, too!' thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCurtennoxX Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 zero feedback? What? Have you read what I wrote beside on most of the items in the list? Take for example the Tonkor. Its broken because its crit chance or crit damge allow it to do way to much damage. Disclaimer: In order for WF to be balanced, these things need to be looked at. If someone advocates to nerf one of such thing, it is only a bandaid fix, it doesnt address the core problems of the game. If anything need to be added, post down below. Either everything needs to be reworked or nothing. There is no middle ground here. So how exactly are you justifying these reasons? Are you actually going into a 60 minute T4S with crappy weapons and saying "Yup, all the good weapons need to be bad like this too. I want to empty 5 mags into one butcher". You mentioned Paris Prime and Dread having "Too much crit chance". THEY ARE BOWS. SINGLE. SHOT. WEAPONS. No one want's to tickle enemies with a blunt arrow head. You mentioned all those warframe powers. How are they overpowered? How is Limbo's riftwalk overpowered? Have you even played him?!? Honestly this thread belongs in the bin. It's terrible in nearly every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Despair has too much damage? You probably dont even own a pair if thats your comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCurtennoxX Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Despair has too much damage? You probably dont even own a pair if thats your comment This is what everyone else is thinking. His justification of 'OP' is terrible beyond words. He must play in Earth missions all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MakoPriest Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) This is officially the least constructive list. You just listed things that people use half of which is not even close to overpowered vacuum? You cannot be serious. I sincerely hope a moderator locks this thread. This is troll bait and i can smell it a mile away. And if its not you should consider uninstalling warframe because apparently you hate 50% of it. Edited July 4, 2015 by (PS4)MakoPriest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCrawford Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 just no that list makes my brain hurt just go play another game if you don't have any constructive criticism or good suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayblis Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I guess OP will be happy if there are no mods and every weapon fires like a braton and deals 15 dmg because thats you know, perfect balance in his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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