ZanderArch Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Rather than whining, we should be posting suggestions about how to fix this. Many have done so citing various real world martial arts that use blunt objects as a primary weapon, this is a pretty good start.Personally, I feel it should be a fast, single target weapon that uses the whole electrical stun as it's primary advantage. With all the baton and tambo videos, one thing is very common. They strike very quickly in key points. This should be preserved in the Prova. Rapid short swings that strike key points on targets and, combined with the electrical effect, stun enemies more than it hurts them.This should be more of a tool to lock down and debilitate a single target so allies can focus on a basically helpless enemy that is getting his bones bashed in ever so slowly by a million perfect and practiced blunt force traumas.That's just my 2 cents and I hope this gets cleared up. Sucks they go about this open beta all wrong, treating it like a released game where we have to earn gear like it's a finished product rather than letting us test concepts like this and give them feed back on how it could be finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuhrasu Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Rather than whining, we should be posting suggestions about how to fix this. Many have done so citing various real world martial arts that use blunt objects as a primary weapon, this is a pretty good start. Personally, I feel it should be a fast, single target weapon that uses the whole electrical stun as it's primary advantage. With all the baton and tambo videos, one thing is very common. They strike very quickly in key points. This should be preserved in the Prova. Rapid short swings that strike key points on targets and, combined with the electrical effect, stun enemies more than it hurts them. This should be more of a tool to lock down and debilitate a single target so allies can focus on a basically helpless enemy that is getting his bones bashed in ever so slowly by a million perfect and practiced blunt force traumas. That's just my 2 cents and I hope this gets cleared up. Sucks they go about this open beta all wrong, treating it like a released game where we have to earn gear like it's a finished product rather than letting us test concepts like this and give them feed back on how it could be finished. Normal attack - 100% stagger chance Charged attack - Knockdown / Electric stun effect from corpus, applied to grineer as well Normal attack combo - ends with knockdown, animations like Tanbo videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisp Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Desperate Old men. Warning. Warning. Edited May 30, 2013 by krisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerokerubina Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 If the Prova Prod were to be fixed would it have the same range as Fraux or would it be a little bit longer at range (without the increase range mod) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefnordest Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) of course they're desperate, they can smell their disappointment and the sound they'll make rattling their clans serves as a warning to the rest. Mm. Hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not leave as quickly as you think. Edited May 30, 2013 by thefnordest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Rebecca Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggsVIII Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. There is still prod yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellthen Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. Maybe tenno engineers can take a look at all the other clantech weapons ahead of time too, so we don't have to make a thread about each one when it turns out to be broken or extremely weak for the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squird5 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. I seriously hope so. Being in Beta, the apparent quality goes each way a lot, but when it keeps pushing toward negative, you get less urge to play and more to move on to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerokerubina Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. *Three Years Later* Update 200 - We fixed the Prod everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellthen Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 *Three Years Later* Update 200 - We fixed the Prod everyone! Update 201 - Prod has been nerfed to bring it in-line with other weapons like the skana and jaw sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL1WAN Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. This made my desperate day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoezell Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 IN PROD WE TRUST (still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeraa Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Rather than whining, we should be posting suggestions about how to fix this. Many have done so citing various real world martial arts that use blunt objects as a primary weapon, this is a pretty good start. Personally, I feel it should be a fast, single target weapon that uses the whole electrical stun as it's primary advantage. With all the baton and tambo videos, one thing is very common. They strike very quickly in key points. This should be preserved in the Prova. Rapid short swings that strike key points on targets and, combined with the electrical effect, stun enemies more than it hurts them. This should be more of a tool to lock down and debilitate a single target so allies can focus on a basically helpless enemy that is getting his bones bashed in ever so slowly by a million perfect and practiced blunt force traumas. That's just my 2 cents and I hope this gets cleared up. Sucks they go about this open beta all wrong, treating it like a released game where we have to earn gear like it's a finished product rather than letting us test concepts like this and give them feed back on how it could be finished. Shut up and take my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaznAzn Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Hopefully they change it so we grow it on our heads and then karate kick infested. MOA prod > Crewman Prod Edited May 31, 2013 by LaznAzn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theangelbelow88 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) I think it needs a custom animation, heck even single dagger animation would have gone better with it then long sword animation and can we please get a polarity slot. Edited May 31, 2013 by theangelbelow88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dousiq Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Thanks for the note and we understand your frustration. Tenno engineers are confident they can improve this weapon and are working on it as we speak. Even now there is hope for prods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Maybe tenno engineers can take a look at all the other clantech weapons ahead of time too, so we don't have to make a thread about each one when it turns out to be broken or extremely weak for the cost. This is the type of attitude that should be frowned upon; not upvoted. Attack and demean the devs of the game you supposedly enjoy. That'll make them work faster and listen to us more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kratier Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 hyping up new content only to find out its a lazy reskin is not something to be supported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dousiq Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 This is the type of attitude that should be frowned upon; not upvoted. Attack and demean the devs of the game you supposedly enjoy. That'll make them work faster and listen to us more. He's got a point though. If they pre-emptively fix the other clan weapons they will suffer less attacks and demeaning posts. Wellthen is just making a serious point humorously. Don't have such thin skin, the devs have heard and taken notes from far more aggressive posts. The blustering of some forum-goer isn't going to reduce them to tears. They don't need you to defend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 He's got a point though. If they pre-emptively fix the other clan weapons they will suffer less attacks and demeaning posts. Wellthen is just making a serious point humorously. Don't have such thin skin, the devs have heard and taken notes from far more aggressive posts. The blustering of some forum-goer isn't going to reduce them to tears. They don't need you to defend them. Defending them =/= me having thin skin. And just because they can ignore the insults towards them doesn't mean everyone should insult them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dousiq Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Defending them =/= me having thin skin. And just because they can ignore the insults towards them doesn't mean everyone should insult them. Did you even read my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Did you even read my post? Yup. Any more questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dousiq Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Yup. Any more questions? When were you officially committed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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