StabbyStaby Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I really hate how U18 changed Mesa ability it's really bad now I realized how Mesa is really hard to get developers please change back the way it once was plus the other problem is for the people who has so bad fps can't even aim like me I can't even see I always have about 3 - 5 dos when chaos goes I use Mesa in mainly defense mission and please change it back :( I can't even aim I don't care what fps I have i love warframe still all the hard work people put into Mesa is good but breaks my heart how much time they spend just for Mesa and please change the back it once was .......... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonUnicornLV Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I really hate how U18 changed Mesa ability it's really bad now I realized how Mesa is really hard to get developers please change back the way it once was plus the other problem is for the people who has so bad fps can't even aim like me I can't even see I always have about 3 - 5 dos when chaos goes I use Mesa in mainly defense mission and please change it back :( I can't even aim I don't care what fps I have i love warframe still all the hard work people put into Mesa is good but breaks my heart how much time they spend just for Mesa and please change the back it once was .......... :( Mesas peacmaker was changed before U18 and it was done because players would press 4 and forget now you need to play actively as it is supposed in this game and some other frames will be geting the same treatment which is not that bad. And nobody will change it back because it takes life out of the game and it goes in stagnation when you press one button and yay everithing dies and you can make some coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 i fored mesa 5 times i nought mesa and she is now lackcluster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insizer Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 No the latest change to Mesa (which was before U18) was great. The only things she needs now is for Peacemaker to not cost 15 energy/sec, to have a bit more armor or something, and for Ballestic Battery to buff a number of shots or buff shots for a certain period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonUnicornLV Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 No the latest change to Mesa (which was before U18) was great. The only things she needs now is for Peacemaker to not cost 15 energy/sec, to have a bit more armor or something, and for Ballestic Battery to buff a number of shots or buff shots for a certain period of time. I agree with you the rework was greate I enjoy her much more now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) IMHO mesa is/was 'overtuned' the nerf to peacemaker rly gutted her now she rly needs a rework, her ULT needs to go back to auto-tgtn enemies that are not within the reticule, but with some kind of penalty, but still prioritize enemies within the reticule, so theres still an active component that incentivizes engagement additionally she needs to be able to walk around slowly while using her peacemakers, locking her stationary is incredibly pointless now [and they could have just given the ULT a max duration of 30 secs to prevent the afkers, instead of the awful rework] but atm her ULT is incredibly lackluster, drains a ton of NRG, does lame dmg, locks u stationary, its basically worse in every possible way over a well modded primary/2ndary personally i would also like to see her #1 be a quick 'fanning' of her peacemakers in a long/narrow cone that 'marks' tgts not killed by it and then synergies with her ULT, ie marked tgts would be priority tgts for auto-aim and they would take +50% or something [ex: u could mark some tgts, then turn around and the ULT would still auto them with bonus dmg b4 reverting to the next priority tgts within the reticule] Edited December 14, 2015 by CY13ERPUNK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siluen Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I don't really mind the change to peacemaker too much now that I got used to it, it just has some poor scaling into late game. Mayhaps it would be nice to have it scale of your secondary mods, like other warframes with "weapon-abilities". I mostly like her abilities, but some could use a little tweaking. A nice change. for example, would be to have her shooting gallery stick to herself, perhaps buffing the damage of those within a certain radius of Mesa. I really dislike the way it swaps because it makes it a far less reliable tool. The only ability I find truely lackluster is her 1, I'm running an Opticor and a Rakta Ballistica as my current weapons and for the Opticor it feels like it is not really needed and for the Rakta it feels clunky. I would not be opposed to just replacing the 1 with a cool utility skill altogether, or maybe a hard-hitting piercing shot in a straight line or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StabbyStaby Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Even if it was before I still hate how u aim cause it's not like 1 click shoot and u can just spam ur mouse and it it has a cool down in between and I'm still kinda mad how much rounds if put for mess Mesa* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebel Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I agree with you the rework was greate I enjoy her much more now Not sure how one can enjoy her more now, there were 2 camps before, you either use peacemaker every now and then or you spam it. There were no really meaningful changes to her other skills that really changed her play-style like Sayrn, now it's basically encouraged to just use peacemaker sparingly. Even if you are using the peacemaker when the ring has shrunk you're still aim botting in a smaller area, its not like you actually are aiming and hitting the target yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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