DarkFireRogue Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Will an actual story based lore exploring campaign like playstyle ever come to Warframe? I'm just wondering because I think I've pinpointed why all of these complaints are coming in about drop rates. Since the game doesn't have a rich story to focus on, it's a loot based game. That is the end goal, so players get cranky when you make the drop rate low. Take borderlands for an example. Nobody complains about the borderlands drop rates, and they're insane! The reason is because you have a story to focus on instead of getting better guns, and the guns part, while still being important, just kinda happens instead of needing to be forced. That's all. I just thought I'd share my thoughts on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 They won't. They said something along the lines of "If we released Warframe around the time CoD came out we would have mimicked them and given a storyline that can't be altered. Warframe gives you some elements and lets you put the rest together." So, all in all, unless they have a change of heart, I don't think they will. DISCLAIMER: That was a paraphrased version of something I saw on Youtube. Don't eat me alive for that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldgrep Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Maybe have a single player campaign mode, and maybe the boss battles are against actual warframes, like stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFireRogue Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 They won't. They said something along the lines of "If we released Warframe around the time CoD came out we would have mimicked them and given a storyline that can't be altered. Warframe gives you some elements and lets you put the rest together." So, all in all, unless they have a change of heart, I don't think they will. DISCLAIMER: That was a paraphrased version of something I saw on Youtube. Don't eat me alive for that please. Oh. That kinda sucks. At least my question was answered. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie9001 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Will an actual story based lore exploring campaign like playstyle ever come to Warframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstZen Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The story of warframe is told mostly through context and world building. They have a "lore guy" according to one of their livestreams, so I imagine they will continue to flesh out the background of the wold as they add new environments and update the lotus' phrases. As others have said, DE doesn't want to do a campaign because they want people to draw up their own stories from the world. They talk about it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggstobacco Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Well that's just bull. Having an overall story arc and a sense of progression/accomplishment is not the same as being on a set of rails with no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The story of warframe is told mostly through context and world building. They have a "lore guy" according to one of their livestreams, so I imagine they will continue to flesh out the background of the wold as they add new environments and update the lotus' phrases. As others have said, DE doesn't want to do a campaign because they want people to draw up their own stories from the world. They talk about it here. The issue there is that DE needs to show more of their world for that type of storytelling to work. Currently Warframe's lore is extremely sparse on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) They've talked about adding lore for months. Specifically data items and recordings that we can find, for one thing. Like in Dead Space. They're working on something right now... but I haven't checked on it in a while... I'll keep it to myself because I can. Edited June 3, 2013 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 THIS SUMMER... ONE MAN... ONE MISSION... ONE PROD! HE IS: PRODNEY DANGERFIELD STARRING IN - 2Fast2Prova 3: Live free, Die Prod - The Revengeance Coming soon to a Dojo near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadenFall Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Well, in the Design Council you can see they are working on in game cinematic. So something might come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Well, in the Design Council you can see they are working on in game cinematic. So something might come along. I'd appreciate you keep talk of that in DC chat. I'm not certain you are even allowed to discuss it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratrix Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) I'd appreciate you keep talk of that in DC chat. I'm not certain you are even allowed to discuss it here. Since when are you not allowed to discuss design council threads publicly? Send me a message of this thread with the policies about design council. Thank you. Edited June 3, 2013 by Ratrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocryphai Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Take borderlands for an example. Nobody complains about the borderlands drop rates, and they're insane! Not true. The Borderlands forums have had plenty of threads complaining about exactly that. I, and several other people I know, stopped playing BL2 specifically because of the terrible drop rates which made the game feel incredibly grindy. You're right in that a story helps game longevity, but usually only up until "endgame". Whatever the game, once player advancement starts to feel like a grind some people will lose interest. MMORPGs like WoW, for instance, only survive because of a constant stream of new content and story. Warframe badly needs more content, I totally agree, but that requires a lot of resources to produce - people, time, money. We'll see if DE are able to pull that off. I hope they do, they've got a good core game, would be nice to see it become something that can provide more than a few weeks of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Since when are you not allowed to discuss design council threads publicly? Send me a message of this thread with the policies about design council. Thank you. I'm actually not sure, which is why I asked him not to talk much on it. I haven't said the same about talking about the Warframe Poll because DE mentioned that directly on the last livestream - so if they made that public they must be okay with it being discussed. However they have not divulged information about that other thing publicly, so I'm not aware of what stance I'm supposed to take about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 It's an "unwritten" rule. Most people keep their mouths shut out of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 That is what I figure it'll turn out like, but I've got no word on it from Lady Lotus and it hasn't really ever come up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratrix Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I'm actually not sure, which is why I asked him not to talk much on it. I haven't said the same about talking about the Warframe Poll because DE mentioned that directly on the last livestream - so if they made that public they must be okay with it being discussed. However they have not divulged information about that other thing publicly, so I'm not aware of what stance I'm supposed to take about it. Fair enough. Are any of the policies for design council given when you purchase the founders pack? Are any of those rules listen under there respected thread tab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratrix Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) It's an "unwritten" rule. Most people keep their mouths shut out of respect. That's good. Edited June 3, 2013 by Ratrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Fair enough. Are any of the policies for design council given when you purchase the founders pack? Are any of those rules listen under there respected thread tab? I would imagine they are. I only own a Hunter pack myself - although my Forum account seems to be unable to update to reflect this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Making it an actual written rule or making us sign something wouldn't even do anything to prevent leaks of info. There are tons of Design Council members, they're all different people and there is simply no way to manage that. But, like I said, most people just keep quiet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratrix Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I would imagine they are. I only own a Hunter pack myself - although my Forum account seems to be unable to update to reflect this. if you don't get a word from Lady Lotus then ill open some sort of ticket, asking for some information. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsword Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Blatant, you should of made it about Def Anyo, Son of the deceased Nef Anyo. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Blatant, you should of made it about Def Anyo, Son of the deceased Nef Anyo. :( It was Derf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratrix Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Making it an actual written rule or making us sign something wouldn't even do anything to prevent leaks of info. There are tons of Design Council members, they're all different people and there is simply no way to manage that. But, like I said, most people just keep quiet anyway. Cool beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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