Returning Player With Questions About New Mobility

[mishli]

Hi, I just came back to warframe after taking a break for about a year. and, while i like most of the new mobility system, i have to ask. what's up with the wall hop? I've spent a very large amount of time in my clan obstical arena trying to get the hang of it, but it simply just feels like crap. a large majority of the time if i'm trying to jump from wall to wall i fall off the wall then have to bullet jump back up. or completely fail the transition between two walls. 

 

I realize wall running was kind of annoying in the past when you would slowly start sliding down the wall. but now it feels like the rooms where it's designed for you to transition between walls (namely on the grineer tilesets and one of the spy rooms) are simply a mess to do.

 

Previously the wall run let you go straight accross the wall > then move right over to another one. while i really like the aim glide/bullet jump, this new hopping thing feels really really awkward and unwieldly

 

Is there something i'm doing wrong? or is this just a complication because of the way the moves were changed?

[N00B731O]

No, it's not just you in my opinion. Ever since the new movement system came out, the wallrun animations were really weird.

[Maicael]

I agree, even after all the time since it was changed it still feels a bit clunky to me. I think part of the reason is that looking around with the mouse causes your Warframe to slowly go in that direction on top of any WASD directions and doesn't cling to and follow the wall like it used to do.

 

I've heard others say it was done this way to be more flexible with uneven walls/environments, but I don't know for sure. Bullet jump and aim glide is good enough, I think, that I'm willing to deal with the bunny hop (for now).

Edited February 3, 2016 by Maicael

[(PSN)BornThisWay41]

I wish DE would have stuck to the free running while doing wall runs. It just seemed better than the wall hop we have now imo

[(PSN)Lowk721]

The hop does have the benefit of a little added control

https://youtu.be/JSci_rarKy0

Maybe it was the only way they could add in a good quick corner turning visual/mechanic.

Edited February 4, 2016 by (PS4)Lowk721

[PrVonTuckIII]

It takes a bit of getting used to compared to the old wall run. With practice however, it is useful for quickly changing direction. I will admit I preferred the old animations. 

[Zsword]

I prefer the old animations, and wish they just gave us on a dime infinite wall runs instead of this nimbly bimbly hopping, not only does it feel weird, I think it just looks, uncool.

 

That being said, while I miss flipping everywhere, once I learned you can Bullet Whoosh in any direction based on where your aiming, I've come to appreciate it far more. Rapidly ascending has become a breeze as long as I con't clip a ledge.

 

Just note you only get 1 whoosh per string, if it's your opening jump, you can't do it again tell you make a parkour action off a surface. (Wall skip thing, Cling, etc.)

[Dammekos]

Give it some time. It's very different from the original movement system but once you get used to it you'll find you have way more control and mobility than before.

[ClinkzEastwood]

Wall run is crap. You can bulletjump to reach anywhere.

[ArcusVeles]

I use the wall hop to refresh my bullet jump, and it's perfect for that.  Running (or hopping) along walls is pointless and looks way less cool than bouncing from wall to wall like a gravity-defying bullet ninja.

[Zsword]

Whooshing is definitely the way to go for most things.

[mishli]

idk how he even pulled that off, since i came back i haven't been able to do a corner turn at all, including on the grineer tile when you used to be able to just run straight around the corner of the bowl shape in the wall, now i just have to bullet jump accross the whole thing and it feels like the tile is basically a waste of space now cuz i can not even get around the way it's supposed to be done

[mishli]

honestly, to me, it feels like the new movement system just made all the parkour tiles almost undoable, you can either just bullet jump straight up (look at you tower rooms) or the wall hop doesn't work right. 

so you either don't need to parkour cuz you can just double jump the whole way, or the wall hop doesn't let you do whatever you need to. don't get me wrong, i really like the bullet jump/bullet time, just feel like if they're gonna change them, the map tiles built on the old set should change too

[rudman88]

i agree the old animation looks coller but i like the now non stamina wall run thing. xd