Additive? or Multiplicative?

[armedpoop]

Whats the difference between the 2? Also the Naramon passive "Deadly Intent" is that additive or multiplicative? Would it add to the weapon's BASE crit chance, or would it add to the percentage like mods would?

[Manyc]

3 minutes ago, BlackVortex said:

I think he was asking a very specific question regarding naramon

He asked 3 different questions. I answered the first, 2nd and 3rd is basically resumed in the link, I'm trying to promote the use of the wikia but I can answer directly too sure.

Deadly intent is multiplicative, with additive you'd go very easily into red crits. So from 5% crit, you'll go to 5 x 1.15 = 5.75%.

If it was additive you'd notice a Huge boost, 5% -> 20%.

And it stacks with Mods. So you calculate the critical boost you'd get with each of them then add them all to the base.

So, 5% weapon, with unranked Deadly (15%) and unranked True Steel (10%) goes for 5 + (5 * 0.15) + (5 * 0.10) = 5 + 0.75 + 0.5 = 6.25%

[Manyc]

Additive is adding them together

Multiplicative is multiplying then adding them, effectively providing diminishing returns on stacked effects

Additive would be 0.5 + 0.5 for 1.

Multiplicative would be 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) for 0.75.

If you somehow had 3 stacking abilities for 50% 50% and 25% 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) + (0.5 * 0.5 * 0.25) = 93.75%

Check it out here, I think it's well explained:

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus/Naramon

[BlackVortex]

14 minutes ago, Manyc said:

Additive is adding them together

Multiplicative is multiplying then adding them, effectively providing diminishing returns on stacked effects

Additive would be 0.5 + 0.5 for 1.

Multiplicative would be 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) for 0.75.

If you somehow had 3 stacking abilities for 50% 50% and 25% 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) + (0.5 * 0.5 * 0.25) = 93.75%

Check it out here, I think it's well explained:

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus/Naramon

I think he was asking a very specific question regarding naramon

[BlackVortex]

1 minute ago, Manyc said:

He asked 3 different questions. I answered the first, 2nd and 3rd is basically resumed in the link, I'm trying to promote the use of the wikia but I can answer directly too sure.

Deadly intent is multiplicative, with additive you'd go very easily into red crits. So from 5% crit, you'll go to 5 x 1.15 = 5.75%.

If it was additive you'd notice a Huge boost, 5% -> 20%.

And it stacks with Mods. So you calculate the critical boost you'd get with each of them then add them all to the base.

So, 5% weapon, with unranked Deadly (15%) and unranked True Steel (10%) goes for 5 + (5 * 0.15) + (5 * 0.10) = 5 + 0.75 + 0.5 = 6.25%

he basically asked 2 questions, the first question was leading into the second and the third one was a specification on the second.

I think he just wanted to know because of naramon is what I meant

you didn't have to go into detail, I was just guessing thats the information he was looking for

[Manyc]

6 minutes ago, BlackVortex said:

he basically asked 2 questions, the first question was leading into the second and the third one was a specification on the second.

I think he just wanted to know because of naramon is what I meant

you didn't have to go into detail, I was just guessing thats the information he was looking for

Let's leave it to him to decide if it was helpful or if it created more doubts.

I tried to do my part.

[BlackVortex]

I'm pretty sure you've helped him out a lot

since you explained into detail what he was asking for

[armedpoop]

2 hours ago, BlackVortex said:

I think he was asking a very specific question regarding naramon

They answered half of it.

 

2 hours ago, Manyc said:

Additive is adding them together

Multiplicative is multiplying then adding them, effectively providing diminishing returns on stacked effects

Additive would be 0.5 + 0.5 for 1.

Multiplicative would be 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) for 0.75.

If you somehow had 3 stacking abilities for 50% 50% and 25% 0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5) + (0.5 * 0.5 * 0.25) = 93.75%

Check it out here, I think it's well explained:

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus/Naramon

Ive been on that page trying to figure it out 

 

2 hours ago, Manyc said:

He asked 3 different questions. I answered the first, 2nd and 3rd is basically resumed in the link, I'm trying to promote the use of the wikia but I can answer directly too sure.

Deadly intent is multiplicative, with additive you'd go very easily into red crits. So from 5% crit, you'll go to 5 x 1.15 = 5.75%.

If it was additive you'd notice a Huge boost, 5% -> 20%.

And it stacks with Mods. So you calculate the critical boost you'd get with each of them then add them all to the base.

So, 5% weapon, with unranked Deadly (15%) and unranked True Steel (10%) goes for 5 + (5 * 0.15) + (5 * 0.10) = 5 + 0.75 + 0.5 = 6.25%

Thanks, so additive is better overall and this means that it would mainly benefit weapons with already high crit chances. Thanks much