Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Jangkrik said: All armors giving the same stats buff and then make Baro always bring at least 1 armor during his visits - Yes. Different stats for different armors and no other way to get them other than Baro's RNG and market - Hell no. Good point. I suppose then it eliminates the whole P2W thing that people would moan about. 1 minute ago, Rapiddragon said: If this going to increase the armor of frame significantly it will be P2W. If this going to increase the armor very little we don't need it. (and someone will still complain that this is P2W) It it is Frame Specific then it would just make the Squichies less Squishy and have very little effect on the Tankier Frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, Dod-Regnbue said: Now that is also a good suggestion. I can get behind that one. Honestly, it is a better suggestion for everyone. People that want stats can get more and have a reason to farm for more than just enough for Syandanas (putting them on helmets is dumb for the majority of people). People that want fashion frame can put them in any armor they want. DE most likely gets more plat or PA accessories sales as a result. It's win-win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Dod-Regnbue said: Good point. I suppose then it eliminates the whole P2W thing that people would moan about. Still... what if someone would like to use no armor at all? I personly think that alot of female frames look better with only a few armor peaces. Aside from that mods are supposed to be what modifies a frames stats. You can modify your armor there if you want. I do not see any reason for this mechanic, its unneeded and its limiting costumisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: Honestly, it is a better suggestion for everyone. People that want stats can get more and have a reason to farm for more than just enough for Syandanas (putting them on helmets is dumb for the majority of people). People that want fashion frame can put them in any armor they want. DE most likely gets more plat or PA accessories sales as a result. It's win-win-win. We have a winner. ^ I do honestly like this idea, and is probably a better suggestion than mine. So I agree totally. Thank you for you input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dod-Regnbue said: We have a winner. ^ I do honestly like this idea, and is probably a better suggestion than mine. So I agree totally. Thank you for you input. feel free to copy-paste it into the first post if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dawn11715 said: Still... what if someone would like to use no armor at all? I personly think that alot of female frames look better with only a few armor peaces. Aside from that mods are supposed to be what modifies a frames stats. You can modify your armor there if you want. I do not see any reason for this mechanic, its unneeded and its limiting costumisation. A lot of games like this offer invisible armor. Just do that, all people to equip arcanes in it, and call the it the "Emperor" set. Edited September 4, 2016 by (PS4)DesecratedFlame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: feel free to copy-paste it into the first post if you want. Thank you. Quoted and Credited to you. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: A lot of games like this offer invisible armor. Just do that, all people to equip arcanes in it, and call the it the "Emperor" set. In that case you might as well just add two arcane slots into loudouts or warframes and let them be equipped like Aura mods. That way the system gets way simpler and people can use what ever cosmetics they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Dawn11715 said: In that case you might as well just add two arcane slots into loudouts or warframes and let them be equipped like Aura mods. That way the system gets way simpler and people can use what ever cosmetics they want. Nah, the Emperor set would just work out since people would still need to treat it like other armor sets, and the benefits DE gets from them would remain, while letting people no mess up their fashion frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, (PS4)DesecratedFlame said: Nah, the Emperor set would just work out since people would still need to treat it like other armor sets, and the benefits DE gets from them would remain, while letting people no mess up their fashion frame. But with Arcane Slots on warframes or loadouts, you wouldnt be forcet to use the same syndana, armor peace(invisible or not), on every frame you have. So for the players, it still would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Dawn11715 said: In that case you might as well just add two arcane slots into loudouts or warframes and let them be equipped like Aura mods. That way the system gets way simpler and people can use what ever cosmetics they want. For example. I do not put a Shoulder piece on my Ivaras let Arm, as I like the little Arrow contraptions she has there. But if I wanted to equip an Arcane on that shoulder. I just put an Emperor Set Piece there, I still get the Arrow Contraption, and I get the added bonus of an Arcane. As a side note, the one issue that could come up this is. Say you equipped all 5 Armour pieces, the Syandana and the Helmet with an Arcane, add in the standard revives. that is 11 revives per mission, if the Arcanes are at max. So if this were to happen, they may need to implement a cap on the revives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Dawn11715 said: But with Arcane Slots on warframes or loadouts, you wouldnt be forcet to use the same syndana, armor peace(invisible or not), on every frame you have. So for the players, it still would be better. No. Arcanes are not a finite resource, and you can load them up with arcane however you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, Dawn11715 said: But with Arcane Slots on warframes or loadouts, you wouldnt be forcet to use the same syndana, armor peace(invisible or not), on every frame you have. So for the players, it still would be better. I get your point, but most Fashion Frame people will use the same Syndana and Armour set on everything. And with a possible extra 5 Arcanes, (given some Uber Farming or serious plat) you can just add the ones you want that will benefit regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Tying stats to cosmetics is a bad idea. So was tying arcanes to cosmetics. Just create slots for this. Easy, simple, doesn't conflict with people's various tastes and sense of aesthetics. Works for EVERYONE this way. It's called common sense. It should be teached in schools. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Marthrym said: Tying stats to cosmetics is a bad idea. So was tying arcanes to cosmetics. Just create slots for this. Easy, simple, doesn't conflict with people's various tastes and sense of aesthetics. Works for EVERYONE this way. It's called common sense. It should be teached in schools. Seriously. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Marthrym said: Tying stats to cosmetics is a bad idea. So was tying arcanes to cosmetics. Just create slots for this. Easy, simple, doesn't conflict with people's various tastes and sense of aesthetics. Works for EVERYONE this way. It's called common sense. It should be teached in schools. Seriously. Well there goes this civilised conversation, thank you for your input. It is called Manners,. It should be taught in schools. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dod-Regnbue said: Well there goes this civilised conversation, thank you for your input. It is called Manners,. It should be taught in schools. Seriously. I see someone forgot to take their medication. That persecution complex of yours is doing fine it seems, good to know mate, good to know. Edited September 4, 2016 by Marthrym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Dante---- Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, xXRiomaXx said: pay to win model right there. people would go from wearing what cosmetics they like, to wearing whatever cosmetic gives their frame the best stat boost. how do you p2w in a pve game where everything dies in an instant or is permanently CCed lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, Marthrym said: It should be teached in schools. Are you trying to be ironic here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Dante123pl said: how do you p2w in a pve game where everything dies in an instant or is permanently CCed lol. Higher levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ZammnZaddy Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) To the folks saying p2w what exactly are you winning in Warframe? Please tell me what can be won in this pve based game. Edited September 4, 2016 by (PS4)GHOSTBEAST1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapiddragon Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, (PS4)GHOSTBEAST1000 said: To the folks saying p2w what exactly are you winning in Warframe? Please tell me what can be won in this pve based game. p2w doesn't mean paying for win. It means significant advantage of paying customer over non-paying customer wich will make this game unbalanced between paying and non-paying customer. It doesn't matter if its PvE or PvP Edited September 4, 2016 by Rapiddragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 While I wouldn't mind if chest, shoulder, and leg armor's became attachment points for arcane enhancements, they would need to add additional methods of getting arcane enhancements. Not a fan of the current method. I don't complain about it, I simply don't run those missions, If it LoR remained the only method, it would almost force me to run a mission type I loathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dod-Regnbue Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, _Vortus_ said: While I wouldn't mind if chest, shoulder, and leg armor's became attachment points for arcane enhancements, they would need to add additional methods of getting arcane enhancements. Not a fan of the current method. I don't complain about it, I simply don't run those missions, If it LoR remained the only method, it would almost force me to run a mission type I loathe. Well, apparently, soon there will be JV Nightmare, and even A Corpus Styled one. Take your pick . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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