Zero5412 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Where the hell is buddy spawn?! Why are'nt we invurnable (for 10 sec) when we spawn?! This needs to be added ingame right now! i die surrounded by enemies and spawn just to @(*()$ die again?! To make matters worse i'm stuck with a rusher! And so I leave with no credits now! Edited July 1, 2013 by Zero5412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanga Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 When you revive, you're exactly where you revive at. During solo play, it makes it difficult to get out of heavy fire once you go down because they start grouping over your body and stand there because of their 'Alert' AI where they stand where they last saw you (Which I think is both a useful and horrible thing to have..) The good thing on this system is that if you're up and invisible, you can easily pop up a power and hit all of them with little stragglers that might have walked away by 2 steps... The bad thing is when you go down, it makes it nearly impossible to get back up if you wait too long. Should have it set to where if you go down, they walk away like they finished you and then the 'Alert' system goes to neutral instead of having them still on high alert. Would be easier. As for the Invincible spawn, do you know how easily that can possibly be exploited? I can easily see someone going down once and just godmode it all the way to the end. However the buddy system does sound better :P I wouldn't mind reviving next to my teammates... but I can see where people would say "Where's the logic in where their bodies suddenly teleport to a teammate instead of where they were just at?" Most of this game goes with Logic over just random occurrences, so I can see that not being added when it would be more of a useful thing in the Co-op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 When you revive, you're exactly where you revive at. During solo play, it makes it difficult to get out of heavy fire once you go down because they start grouping over your body and stand there because of their 'Alert' AI where they stand where they last saw you (Which I think is both a useful and horrible thing to have..) The good thing on this system is that if you're up and invisible, you can easily pop up a power and hit all of them with little stragglers that might have walked away by 2 steps... The bad thing is when you go down, it makes it nearly impossible to get back up if you wait too long. Should have it set to where if you go down, they walk away like they finished you and then the 'Alert' system goes to neutral instead of having them still on high alert. Would be easier. As for the Invincible spawn, do you know how easily that can possibly be exploited? I can easily see someone going down once and just godmode it all the way to the end. However the buddy system does sound better :P I wouldn't mind reviving next to my teammates... but I can see where people would say "Where's the logic in where their bodies suddenly teleport to a teammate instead of where they were just at?" Most of this game goes with Logic over just random occurrences, so I can see that not being added when it would be more of a useful thing in the Co-op. When you revive, you're exactly where you revive at. During solo play, it makes it difficult to get out of heavy fire once you go down because they start grouping over your body and stand there because of their 'Alert' AI where they stand where they last saw you (Which I think is both a useful and horrible thing to have..) The good thing on this system is that if you're up and invisible, you can easily pop up a power and hit all of them with little stragglers that might have walked away by 2 steps... The bad thing is when you go down, it makes it nearly impossible to get back up if you wait too long. Should have it set to where if you go down, they walk away like they finished you and then the 'Alert' system goes to neutral instead of having them still on high alert. Would be easier. As for the Invincible spawn, do you know how easily that can possibly be exploited? I can easily see someone going down once and just godmode it all the way to the end. However the buddy system does sound better :P I wouldn't mind reviving next to my teammates... but I can see where people would say "Where's the logic in where their bodies suddenly teleport to a teammate instead of where they were just at?" Most of this game goes with Logic over just random occurrences, so I can see that not being added when it would be more of a useful thing in the Co-op. I was in the void so there was A LOT of gunners and Ancient ready to knock me back down and destroy me with their OP gorgons. DE are smart enough not to make godmode -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightSpark Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have never had that problem, if you a problem with swarming then get a frame with naturally high crowd control ( frost, nyx, vauban etc ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have never had that problem, if you a problem with swarming then get a frame with naturally high crowd control ( frost, nyx, vauban etc ). If you die you re-spawn with 50 energy (for most frames) so Nyx, Frost,Vauban,etc, would'nt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogManDan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If you die you re-spawn with 50 energy (for most frames) so Nyx, Frost,Vauban,etc, would'nt help. They would work if you have the correct power mods on them; just saying it is very possible. For Vauban all he needs to do it drop 1 or 2 Tesla's right way and you are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nerf-Herder- Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Ember - Overheat FTWBut yes, would be annoying to be smashed again after reviving, my suggestion is not to die. ;) Those legs were made for running, run away and live to ninja another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowGhosting Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 "Where's the logic in where their bodies suddenly teleport to a teammate instead of where they were just at?" Same logic as when someone joins your session and just appears out of nowhere right next you. i don't see any problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 OP: No, for real, OP's point is nice. Countless games where I joined and was nearly down to 0 health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 OP: No, for real, OP's point is nice. Countless games where I joined and was nearly down to 0 health. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghobe Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I wouldn't mind seeing an "invincible/no aggro until move/shoot/melee/timer" thing when joining a match in progress for the first time(to prevent people from constantly leaving and coming back). As to being invincible on revive, no. 100% against that. Though I find it rather amusing you complain about being with a rusher....and that rusher is your friend apparently xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 I wouldn't mind seeing an "invincible/no aggro until move/shoot/melee/timer" thing when joining a match in progress for the first time(to prevent people from constantly leaving and coming back). As to being invincible on revive, no. 100% against that. Though I find it rather amusing you complain about being with a rusher....and that rusher is your friend apparently xD Dude invincible for a short time damn. Why would I want an exploit?! 10 sec is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theammostore Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Dude invincible for a short time damn. Why would I want an exploit?! 10 sec is good 10 seconds is long. 5 seconds is pushing it, for a revive. 2-3 seconds is reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowGhosting Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Why not just make it so when you join a session or revive, your invulnerable to damage and can't gain aggro, up until you make a movement or use a skill. All problems solved, and can't be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghobe Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Dude invincible for a short time damn. Why would I want an exploit?! 10 sec is good 10 seconds is forever. Hell 2 seconds is too long. If a revive is going to have invuln time, it better be less than 0.5 seconds. And if your teammates are ressing you with enough guys around for you to instantly go back down, you and your friends might want to rethink how you approach the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Why not just make it so when you join a session or revive, your invulnerable to damage and can't gain aggro, up until you make a movement or use a skill. All problems solved, and can't be abused. That's genius but what if you're surrounded by enemies and need to get there and you don't have Loki or Ash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublechutor Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 That's genius but what if you're surrounded by enemies and need to get there and you don't have Loki or Ash? Shade + Ghost ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NessTV Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You should be happy you can be revived instead of starting mission over again...You failed, face the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namacyst Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wait a second... you can actually die in this game? Bwahahahahahaha!!! Seriously... you're lying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimitis Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 That's genius but what if you're surrounded by enemies and need to get there and you don't have Loki or Ash? Jump, because jumping while in a mob can get you very far, and if done right, if there happens to be an aoe knockdown(like grineer minigunner's), you get instantly boosted in the direction you want. Also as trouble suggested, shade and ghost, nothing wrong with that, especially since it revives along with you after you spend a token. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumdalumlum Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wait a second... you can actually die in this game? Bwahahahahahaha!!! Seriously... you're lying! Try infestation Def mission to around wave 26~30 with a team with just 1 trinity 2 exa and 1 ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) @Lumdalumlum That sounds more like a team issue than a problem with the game honestly. Though depending on the players a trinity would see you get back up and go blessing immeadiently. Your invulnerable for a short period of time. But honestly? If your going to try to make it to the higher waves in a defense mission get frames suited for the job. Edited July 2, 2013 by Tsukinoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz270 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Isn't this part of the game design that there's not grace period post revive? If you have a whole bunch of heavies smacking you when you just revived then I think your team has done some tactical misjudgment. Please don't make the game easier then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero5412 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wait a second... you can actually die in this game? Bwahahahahahaha!!! Seriously... you're lying! T3 void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NessTV Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 T3 void. If only my Boltor ammo wasn't going down so fast I would do T3 solo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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