(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) SEE BELOW FOR MUCH MORE INFO AND CONCEPT ART AND IDEAS(update augment ideas see below) So I have a frame idea I have named Malphas(up for debate on name) that I think everyone will like I don't have exact Stat ideas I'll leave that to everyone else but I do have ability ideas thought for this demon frame but here are the ability ideas if you like my idea run with it if it makes it in game I just want a little credit. UPDATED STATS: all stats at lvl 0 Health:160 Shield:160 Energy: 200 Armor:170 (updated)passive: Malphas gains extra armor with a kubrow companion(effect stays even if kubrow dies). Killing with a pole arm causes enemies to explode with 300 blast damage Hell hounds Summon two spectral hounds to enter the fray one gives bonus status chance the other increases melee attack speed. Both hounds would have 100 health and simular to rhino iron skin,frost bubble,inaros scarab armor ect on the ability would have a 200 value at 100 you would know one hound died at 50 last hound almost dead ect this ability cannot be recast until both hounds died. Upon death hounds will explode with dark fire in a 5/10/12? Meter radius adjustment may be needed on that. These hounds should behave like a kubrow attacking enemies. Give input on all abilities plus what health/shield/power level you think is reasonable for this frame. the 9th gate puts an insignia on the ground in a 5/10/15 meter radius that causes all enemies that enter to become explosive and expand looking like expanding saryn spores running in a panic shortly before exploding in dark fire. Ability affected by range and power strength so that higher level enemies take longer to explode or at all once they explode if the damage wasn't high enough they would just continue on living just damaged. This is a cc ability also at max rank only 15 enemies can be affected before recast is needed so multiple casts required for more enemies to be affected Devils trident summon a flaming trident and either throw for fiery explosion( at max level you can throw 3 tridents then recast) or melee attack(this ability would be affected by duration or all three tridents thrown ie. Throw 2 then melee until duration expire) with your whole body on fire which would injure melee enemies that would approach. Note: enemies affected by 9th gate would explode prematurely when hit by this ability or a gun or an ally or another enemy ie. Chaos simular to novas ability speaking of nova 9th gate should work well along with nova and nyx. Please critique my idea all you want. Demon possession this ultimate ability allows you to posses any enemy and should look simular to tenno transference unlike nyx you become the enemy use their weapon which shouldn't be hard for developers since we can make and use most enemy faction weapons. Ancients should attack with their arms like a whip. As far as downside and keeping this frame from being to op a health penalty when your possessed enemy dies before you release it should be good simular to valkyr and hysteria. Note: the health of your possessed enemy would have a value of 100 but retain enemy level so you cold still damage high level foes. Nullifies possessed would give mobile shield effect to you and allies basically mobile frost bubble. So possessing the right enemy and having your squad defend you would be a tactical element to it. Augments Shadow hounds: if a kubrow or kavat is equipped hounds will share their abilities ie howl,dig,cats eye,unleashed,etc. Note this will not be overpowered as hounds have no shield and cannot be healed and also it will just be the basic ability of whatever companion you have not all the other mods ie. Bite,protection,swipe. Also not equipping a kubrow would void the passive ability so if you want a kavats ability instead and not take the bonus armor that's your choice Frantic gate: all enemies affected by 9th gate will be 10% faster and explosion time -25% or 10 seconds that part would have to be tested. Note: in my mind enemies affected by 9th gate run aimlessly around and towards enemies swelling then exploding so this Aug would increase chance of explosion killing more enemies as opposed to an enemy walking into a wall and going boom for nothing. Fire missle: devils trident when thrown no longer archs and explodes but instead one mighty trident that Flies straight skewering enemies in its path and pinning them to a wall(or roof or whatever) dealing puncture damage exploding in either large boom or small depending on amount of ememies skewed then disappearing. Note: this is a crowd control Aug high level enemies won't be killed just pinned for a time damaged then released. Most likely duration mods will increase pin time so this frame can either be balanced across all abilities or specialized in one ability( or maybe two that works sometimes) Host symbiosis: possession augment aiming at another enemy and activating possession while in possession will allow you to "hop" into a new host without exposing you to damage however you must have enough energy to recast this ability as normal to do so Note: zeneurik school which has en regeneration will make this easier but even so high level missions will still make it difficult also range mods will decide how far you can cast and recast this ability so as not to allow you to "teleport" across the map. Notes: this frame back story should mesh well with war within dark feel also is the opposite of titania like frost and ember. Possibly have something to do with the cephalon fragments where ordis's original body has been turned into a warframe. Exact backstory I leave to DE and all the players out there who build on this idea. Quest for this frame should implement the new tenno ability using transference to posses certain enemies npcs ect. This frames appearance should look kinda like loki prime with some sort of horns body should be like the ash koga skin. thank you for reading and I hope it makes to the game with all tennos help. Edited January 17, 2017 by (XB1)Jax7117 passive change, ability change, augment change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kamil-the-KamiKa Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Suicide bombers, SUICIDE BOMBERS! bruh, no thank you sir. Anyway the concept seems legit (part from his 9th gate ability which is a no no) although this demon concept is getting grinder out and it doesn't seam special anymore. But good concept non the less apart from certain ability(I will never let that go) :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkneblade_TR Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 it wont work very vell with current lore since demons doesnt exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Like it says it's an idea you don't like think of a way to make it better no demon right and fairies are ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)skins0208 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I like the idea. But its gotta look wicked!I always liked the Triborg (mortal kombat) character though. Would be cool if someone came up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedWolf Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Darkneblade_TR said: it wont work very vell with current lore since demons doesnt exist Then it can be considered a possession frame, not a demon. Also, as mentioned above, demons aren't okay but fairies are? There's not much of a difference here aside from one being considered good and the other bad. I don't think we're very limited on ideas here, especially when we have a dragon, a mummy, a few gods, a necromancer... Anyways! Demon Flame (I may have misread this?) sounds a bit too much like Chroma's Spectral Scream. Anyways, interesting concept. The Ninth Gate ability may be a bit iffy, as I'm not sure how well that would pan out with ideals. However, maybe you could have it to where enemies affected within x area become possessed and start attacking targets that you can mark. The amount of targets you can mark is dependent upon the amount of enemies you have under your control and, toggling the ability again causes enemies to explode dealing y damage to enemies within z radius (smaller than the original area of effect on initial cast). A secondary idea that is similar would be enemies in x radius are possessed and run up to other enemies. Toggle again and the affected enemies explode. Do you by chance have any aesthetic ideas for the frame (just curious)? I'd love to see that if you do. Edited December 13, 2016 by PaintedWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Thank you painted wolf for the support on the demon flame it would work like ignis or quanta except it's an ability and you can move around while (flame throwing) draining energy for duration of button held I currently do not own chroma if his scream is simular than a Def change is needed on the 9th gate subject I am American so suicide bomber and terrorist are a common term but this game is global so I of course don't want to offend anyone so suggestions for new name/politically correct descriptions? On appearance I do not have the tools to make a rendering of how he would look so if anyone wants to make some Go for it! Also painted wolf I like the ideas for the 9th gate ability prob the second idea would be best simple but not to simple. Edited December 13, 2016 by (XB1)Jax7117 more to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedWolf Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 36 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Jax7117 said: Thank you painted wolf for the support on the demon flame it would work like ignis or quanta except it's an ability and you can move around while (flame throwing) draining energy for duration of button held I currently do not own chroma if his scream is simular than a Def change is needed on the 9th gate subject I am American so suicide bomber and terrorist are a common term but this game is global so I of course don't want to offend anyone so suggestions for new name/politically correct descriptions? On appearance I do not have the tools to make a rendering of how he would look so if anyone wants to make some Go for it! Also painted wolf I like the ideas for the 9th gate ability prob the second idea would be best simple but not to simple. Chroma's Spectral Scream is more or less a flamethrower of the element you choose except it fires out of his mouth like a dragon rather than his hands. I grew up in America as well, I just think using that terminology in the official description may more or less trigger some players. To be honest, you could probably keep the name the same and instead change the description to something like "Enemies become possessed and explode on contact with another enemy." I'd be willing to draw out some concepts for aesthetic. I think it would be fun.~ I can't create a 3D model of him as I lack the materials to do so but I could take a crack at a design concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Go for it I would love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedWolf Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) This isn't quite done yet since I want to go over it again and get some things done that obviously need to be redone (ahem, the left foot ;-;). Buuuut here is some concept art I came up with for the suggested frame. Edited December 15, 2016 by PaintedWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 That is amazing it's like my idea came to life almost:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 I have a new idea to replace demon flame it would be called demon fist it would work like green lanterns ring and depending on what you where doing at time of activation would decide on what it did. Appearance would be a giant spectral demon hand/fist. Activate while sliding: spin and claw with demon fist. Activate while jumping: fist uppercut. Activate while bullet jumping: you guessed it...flying spinning demon fist o pain with increase bullet jump length like the weight of the giant hand propels you. Jump while aiming at ground: ground slam with aoe effect that causes fire and rock fissures to protrude. Augment could be fissures remain and do dot for x amount of seconds. Would be glad for input thanks again to painted wolf for the concept art if this sounds like a frame you would like to see in game please support this thread with ideas and some Stat values Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Any concept art you would like to show of what you think this frame should look like would be great...AND HE NEEDS A NAME! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlendasNaro Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Suicide Bombers? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH! Waaaarh! Put sock in it! AAAAAAAAAAARH! Oh oe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlendasNaro said: Suicide Bombers? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH! Waaaarh! Put sock in it! AAAAAAAAAAARH! Oh oe. Geez ok the term "suicide bomber" is obviously frowned upon I'll change it immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlendasNaro Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Just now, (Xbox One)Jax7117 said: Geez ok the term "suicide bomber" is obviously frowned upon I'll change it immediately That is actually quote from certain game. I am fine with the name. Check Serious Sam 3 and you will get what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Oh ok I got flak earlier for the name:) lol what do you think of the idea tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlendasNaro Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Jax7117 said: Oh ok I got flak earlier for the name:) lol what do you think of the idea tho? It's different. Nothing else I really can not say. Although that I like different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Thanks...I think lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 With research I have come up with some names malphar/marax/valen/valefor/devinax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedWolf Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Finished an art concept displayed earlier for a demon frame. I'll probably do shading later. Edited December 16, 2016 by PaintedWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 HOLY CORPUS THAT IS AWSOME!.... (ha game humor:)) thanks painted wolf that is amazing looking:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hey painted did you check out the replacement idea for demon flame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaintedWolf Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 44 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Jax7117 said: Hey painted did you check out the replacement idea for demon flame? Seems a bit too complex for an ability, much more for a first ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Jax7117 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Not really would work like melee perhaps activate and use as melee or replace devils trident with it and put vengeance as first ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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