ninosan Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 now this is just getting ridiculus ... Nightmare with vampiric mode getting harder !? Drain more life !? the game is not even playable.... I was runnning the mission for jackal ... the first few blocks of maps was no enemy .. then this long arse elevator ... buh bye ... done deal ... then finally get to jackal ... his battle takes awhile due to the level adjustment ... no little fliers ... after awhile .. buh bye ... seriously =.= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizen Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Get the entire party to Stack Rejuvination? :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGerbil Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 you know, there is a healing item you can take with you incase you dont see anything for a few rooms. enemies are now a resource. gotta manage it. if you are running around killing like normal you are doing it wrong. for solo play at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerikin Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 New vampire mode drains too fast. If you hit a spot of any length without enemies you are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasten Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) My suggestion is to cap Vampire mode at dropping players to 1 health, not kill. This way you back stop for tiles that either don't spawn mobs, or worse multiple tiles and long boss fight that don't spawn mobs. Large Heals and Team Heals do not do enough to off set such droughts of killable AI. Edited July 15, 2013 by Brasten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorillabear Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 vampiric WAAAAAAY to strong now, this is nuts... end screen took me from full to under half... playtested this? i do not think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Dean Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 you die in 15 seconds. Enemies prolong your life by like 3 seconds apiece. Against grineer elite marines, who take 3 seconds to kill, this is stupid. DE, please fix your mess. Nightmare mode is now unplayable until you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninosan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 i dont know whos idea it is to make vampiric mode stronger .. the old one itself is already annoying and i died on boss fight many times cause of that ... definitely cannot allow vampiric to kill (drop hp to 1) if it is intended for this hard ... oh rejuvenation !? it barely heal you 1hp per tick even on the max lv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizen Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 All you need is one AFKer. and BOOM. Vampire mission ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Please DE remove this died 3 times just tring to get to the end of M-Prime and I was killing everything that was moving too. This is absurd please do not add anything like this ever again without play testing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccolli1500 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The buff to Vampire mode makes even Caloris unplayable. I run that mission a lot to level equipment, but it's impossible if you don't have at least 500 hp, and even that is cutting it far too close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) The buff to Vampire mode makes even Caloris unplayable. I run that mission a lot to level equipment, but it's impossible if you don't have at least 500 hp, and even that is cutting it far too close I have 740 health and I died 3 times in M-prime there is no possible way for a frost to get more health without that artifact and even that would only buy a few seconds. Edited July 15, 2013 by LazyKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmire Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) And .......... many people were complaining that Nightmare mode was easy and took them no effort to get those nightmare mods Edited July 15, 2013 by Frostmire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 And .......... many people were complaining that Nightmare mode was easy and took them no effort to get those nightmare mods -_- DE should hire the Team ninja that made the ninja gaiden if they want a brutally hard game that hates the people playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuboko Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 And .......... many people were complaining that Nightmare mode was easy and took them no effort to get those nightmare modsI don't know who said something like that but in my opinion they shoud nerf drain a litle and give more hp for killing enemys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) I don't know who said something like that but in my opinion they shoud nerf drain a litle and give more hp for killing enemys. Drain should NEVER be HP lost per second it should be based on % of total at a much lower rate. Such as 1%HP lost every 3 seconds with killing NPC giving back 5% HP. It doesn't need to be like this it 1000x more annoying that those blasted ice level. If DE can't play test their own game they really should hire some temps to play test everything they do. Edited July 15, 2013 by LazyKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer-X Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 This update for vampiric has been pretty lousy. Not only do a lot players glitch out into "semi-dead" states very often when HP drain gets them down to 0 health, but I've also never completed a vampire mission legitamately after the update. The only time I could complete it... is if the host rage quits and the mission no longer drains health. This needs to be looked at immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000Blank000 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I died in an elevator, used up all 8 of my first-aids waiting for it, then died going down. Vampire mode is impossible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubninja Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 now this is just getting ridiculus ... Nightmare with vampiric mode getting harder !? Drain more life !? the game is not even playable.... I was runnning the mission for jackal ... the first few blocks of maps was no enemy .. then this long arse elevator ... buh bye ... done deal ... then finally get to jackal ... his battle takes awhile due to the level adjustment ... no little fliers ... after awhile .. buh bye ... seriously =.= Had the same problem, if you come back the same way as you cleared and you are an efficient killer, then the alarm isnt going off and there isn't any enemies to kill or health left to pick up. You get screwed for being good at the game. That is called bad game design. How about having options for missions that make them more difficult that the host can turn on like Vindictus or Samurai Western. Seriously, just add in a bunch of game modifiers that make it harder and give better rewards. Don't add game modes that penalize players for their play style being stealthy (what I thought the point of the game was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelis_Uk Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Stop blaming vampire mode and just tell them that it's too difficult for you. Ask them to make it easier as challenge is no fun for the average gamer. Kind of like when you ask daddy to open your packet of sweets for you. What if nightmare missions were meant as a tough challenge for players who were experienced in the game. People who are willing to run with specific statted Warframes with high hp and who knows even a Trinity in the group. Players who use their brains to tackle a challenge and get rewarded for it.There is much fun to be had in missions where it is not 100% sure that you will finish it. Can anyone really remember the last time they died before nightmare missions? ( Brand new unmodded warframes excluded ) Warframe has lacked difficulty for some time now, dont ruin it by swamping them asking for easy mode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W00DSTER Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 why not make it a selectable game mode? Like before you start a mission click on a nightmare toggle box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muccmaster Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 This mode is impossible without dying a bunch of times solo. It wouldn't even be that bad if enemies actually spawned more often but as it is right now it's a terribly unfair garbage effect. Might as well alt+f4 every time you get it and save yourself the headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninosan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Stop blaming vampire mode and just tell them that it's too difficult for you. Ask them to make it easier as challenge is no fun for the average gamer. Kind of like when you ask daddy to open your packet of sweets for you. What if nightmare missions were meant as a tough challenge for players who were experienced in the game. People who are willing to run with specific statted Warframes with high hp and who knows even a Trinity in the group. Players who use their brains to tackle a challenge and get rewarded for it.There is much fun to be had in missions where it is not 100% sure that you will finish it. Can anyone really remember the last time they died before nightmare missions? ( Brand new unmodded warframes excluded ) Warframe has lacked difficulty for some time now, dont ruin it by swamping them asking for easy mode! if you are one of the OP player who have played for bloody too long ... and spend thousands of dollars on the platinum just to beef up your charc .. and then .. you havent tried the new vampiric mode ... SHUT THE HECK UP ! First thing first ... most of the darn party arrangement is RANDOM ... You can be low lv with 200hp paired with high lv and you ended DYING IN ONE HIT ! Secondly ... NOT EVERYONE are in guild / clan or big clan .. Thirdly ... NOT EVERYONE HAVE that beef of a warframe like yours .. or even worse ... RHINO (if iron body negate the vampiric mode) Edited July 16, 2013 by ninosan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngboss707 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Stop blaming vampire mode and just tell them that it's too difficult for you. Ask them to make it easier as challenge is no fun for the average gamer. Kind of like when you ask daddy to open your packet of sweets for you. What if nightmare missions were meant as a tough challenge for players who were experienced in the game. People who are willing to run with specific statted Warframes with high hp and who knows even a Trinity in the group. Players who use their brains to tackle a challenge and get rewarded for it.There is much fun to be had in missions where it is not 100% sure that you will finish it. Can anyone really remember the last time they died before nightmare missions? ( Brand new unmodded warframes excluded ) Warframe has lacked difficulty for some time now, dont ruin it by swamping them asking for easy mode! Says the one playing as Rhino/Frost with 1500HP and a contact list with 2000+ lvl 30 potatoed Trinity contacts to play 24/7, anytime, anywhere. YES! Because we have to go strictly multiplayer and use one Warframe to be happy! Seriously, if I want to play an impossible game, I play I Wanna Be The Guy not Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apathulhu Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Vampire mode is a broken mechanic. It can work two ways, and neither are very good for the game. If you are killing fast enough to have a net gain of health vampire mode is in fact making the game easier because while you may temporarily drop health you will always end up bringing it to full, even with damage that is caused by enemies and not the game mode. On the other side of it, if you are not killing fast enough, death is inevitable, and the game doesn't have enough healing mechanics to maintain your health through other means. They can tweak the numbers as much as they want in either direction, but they'll never be able to hit a middle ground on this mechanic. The window of perfect health maintenance is just too small, and will shift depending on gear and skill, so the best they'll ever be able to get is a 50/50 split of stupid easy and impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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