Question about the Redeemer

[Wiergate]

Evening all, 

In today's sortie I got a Riven for the Redeemer, with boosts to Slash, Combo Counter and Finishers (roughly 110% on each and 6.6 s on the counter).

I thought I'd take it for a spin before considering re-rolling it, and was distressed to notice that finishers with the Redeemer do not contribute to the combo counter. I tried it with Calm and Frenzy Equinox (Night form) and then Excal as a control, and that's just how it is. Finishers would sometimes be in the form of charged shots and sometimes 'regular', seemingly at random. 

However, I play with a controller on PC, and have my melee attack and quick melee on the same button - might that contribute? Or is the Riven causing a bug, or - last option, I suppose - is the Redeemer simply supposed to work this way? I haven't used it for ages and can't find any discussion on the matter. 
I'd like to figure this out before I start burning through my Kuva.

 

Grateful for any advice.

[failedtodiet]

From what i know, Redeemer have 3 finisher moves: front and downed enemy = shot (not charged shot), rear = throat cut. All are affected by finisher damage boost.

I think most people use Redeemer for charged shots and hardly get any benefits from combo counter.

IMO, this riven needs to be rerolled. My Ideal stats are: damage, elemental damage, attack speed/range with negative crit/finisher stats.

Or sell the riven for Grofit.

[Arcainyx]

WF Redeemer Wiki

I wouldn't be too surprised if you were holding down your melee button just enough to activate a charged shot as it mentions in the notes.

As failedtodiet mentions most of the posts I read about regarding Redeemer are for using it with charged shots.  There are a number of interesting ways this weapon works with ranged shots and it technically being melee.  It's easy enough to get charged shots on a Redeemer and even easier if you have a gunblade stance - Bullet Dance in particular.  Also note the low crit chance and multiplier.  These are all reasons why combo counter on your riven might not be the best thing to have.

[Wiergate]

13 hours ago, Arcainyx said:

I wouldn't be too surprised if you were holding down your melee button just enough to activate a charged shot as it mentions in the notes.

Could be, as I said I haven't used this weapon much and I'm not used to its quirks. I'm pretty certain I just tapped for the finisher animation, but the 'queue' behavior could still prompt undesired charged shots anyway, I suppose. 

I've been using it with High Noon, Bullet Dance seems to be one of the very few stances I haven't got. Orokin Sabotage apparently, guess I have a new project. 

Once I've found that I'll give i t a spin as well and then reroll the Riven with your advice in mind. Thanks to you both for the help!