LongIron Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Right I had an idea to myself "why not use Loki on T3 Defence?" Using a well modded Loki is like using Bastille on Infested, a total F** YOU move to all who oppose you. We had a Frost, unnecessary but didn't matter, a Nyx and Saryn for the group. Gotta clear this up though, from a chat in the game Region. A well modded Loki, someone wrote, it is too much bother to make Loki good when you could use another frame..... No. The only mods you need, which you would use on any frame not just Loki, are Radial Disarm, Flow / Streamline / Stretch and Redirection or others if you have used a catalyst or used the Aura slot. Running around invisible and disarming everyone is undoubtedly the most useful skill on T3 def. Think about it, why do you die or the pod get destroyed ? because they shoot the crap out of it with high-damage weapons. What happens when you disarm them ? they run around with a stick, easier to distract with decoys and you don't need to worry about finding cover because no one is shooting at you. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Right I had an idea to myself "why not use Loki on T3 Defence?" Using a well modded Loki is like using Bastille on Infested, a total F** YOU move to all who oppose you. We had a Frost, unnecessary but didn't matter, a Nyx and Saryn for the group. Gotta clear this up though, from a chat in the game Region. A well modded Loki, someone wrote, it is too much bother to make Loki good when you could use another frame..... No. The only mods you need, which you would use on any frame not just Loki, are Radial Disarm, Flow / Streamline / Stretch and Redirection or others if you have used a catalyst or used the Aura slot. Running around invisible and disarming everyone is undoubtedly the most useful skill on T3 def. Think about it, why do you die or the pod get destroyed ? because they shoot the crap out of it with high-damage weapons. What happens when you disarm them ? they run around with a stick, easier to distract with decoys and you don't need to worry about finding cover because no one is shooting at you. Simple. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMidnightX Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 or you can sit inside snowglobe while they blast at its impenetrable walls and have a frame with powers that kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yes. I have had to convince people that Loki will work better then Nova for T3 defense. After the game, nobody ever says I was wrong. Radial Disarm truly is an underused but very helpful skill. When mixed with Vauban's Bastille? GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 or you can sit inside snowglobe while they blast at its impenetrable walls and have a frame with powers that kill Enjoy your life of pressing 4 behind a brightly colored globe with no other skill from every other player out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 True. Phew, this is compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Enjoy your life of pressing 4 behind a brightly colored globe with no other skill from every other player out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIron Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 or you can sit inside snowglobe while they blast at its impenetrable walls and have a frame with powers that kill Also true, in 20 waves I tried a few variants and found just waiting for a big group then running out was the best, a bit boring just standing there waiting for them to come in range, plus I wanted to kill something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agung.up Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) After the game, nobody ever says I was wrong. Radial Disarm truly is an underused but very helpful skill. When mixed with Vauban's Bastille? GG.agree. it's actually useful, even though many people said it's depend on the situation. and also it's more fun doing this then just sitting in the middle waiting and killing, at least for me. Edited August 25, 2013 by agung.up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikab Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 @OP: reach wave 50+, disarm them... and watch how your team gets destroy by melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Shh, I like reading the "Frost is OP posts" while sitting on my throne of baton wielding Grineer corpses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 @OP: reach wave 50+, disarm them... and watch how your team gets destroy by melee. Well, WASD is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyBear Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Enjoy your life of pressing 4 behind a brightly colored globe with no other skill from every other player out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikab Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Well, WASD is overrated. you can WASD however you want. You will run out of Energy, mobs will swarm you, and either you, or the Pod dies. TL;DR: Some Frames are useless for high-end game. Loki is 1 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neKroMancer Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Loki has team-centric ultimate. Radial disarm + Bastille turns range faction defense into a joke. Use it alone and lure all of them with decoy for teammates to hit large group of prod swinging Grineer with ultimate is a sound strategy. Playing Loki and hope that your teammate has enough creativity to deal with the situation is definitely harder than playing Loki himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 you can WASD however you want. You will run out of Energy, mobs will swarm you, and either you, or the Pod dies. TL;DR: Some Frames are useless for high-end game. Loki is 1 of them. Yes. Removing every ability, gun, ability to spawn, permanently is TERRIBLE. Your avatar is Nova, I guess you only paly her and spam 4? Yea.. that's real fun and challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Have fun finding enough energy to constantly disarm them for 15 - 20 waves.I'm pretty sure it has a time limit as well before they get their weapons back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Think about it, why do you die or the pod get destroyed ? i don't die and pod don't get destroyed. because i know what i am doing. why would i use loki when i can use shee or rhino or saryn... hell even pesky nova. yes loki can be useful, yes mag can crowd control, yes excal can do cc as well, even ember can stagger from time to time. wasting damage boost or much better crowd control will result in nothing good. fight at T3D for 35-40 minutes? no thank you. basically you can play any mission with any frame true. Loki can solo wave 40 xini so to speak. But it is all about time you waste on that and there are always frames that just better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 you can WASD however you want. You will run out of Energy, mobs will swarm you, and either you, or the Pod dies. TL;DR: Some Frames are useless for high-end game. Loki is 1 of them. I thought you could use weapons. I thought you could use energy siphon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoompigXD Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 TL;DR: Some Frames are useless for high-end game. Loki is 1 of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kyo_1SgNEN0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Have fun finding enough energy to constantly disarm them for 15 - 20 waves. I'm pretty sure it has a time limit as well before they get their weapons back. And no. They are permanently disarmed. Also, you can use Essence helmet with Streamline. Energy orbs are dropping like hell in mdef/def as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enix7 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Radial Disarm+decoy turns grineer and and corpus into infested. They just swarm the decoy. Loki doesn't get the credit he deserves because he can't take out a crowd in an instant but he is very fun to use and useful on any team if used properly. Edited August 25, 2013 by enix7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agung.up Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Loki has team-centric ultimate. Radial disarm + Bastille turns range faction defense into a joke. Use it alone and lure all of them with decoy for teammates to hit large group of prod swinging Grineer with ultimate is a sound strategy. Playing Loki and hope that your teammate has enough creativity to deal with the situation is definitely harder than playing Loki himself. ^this. why people keep playing alone in a 4-players session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spamzillasaurus Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Loki is always the fun way to play imo, I deleted him accidentally but I made him again gotta love that trickster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbyn Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) TL;DR: Some Frames are useless for high-end game. Loki is 1 of them. Actually, very high-level end-game is exactly where Loki shines. Invisibility makes you nigh invulnerable due to enemies not being able to actually hit you, which is great for ressing teammates should they go down. Decoy is still useful as a herding mechanic when used out of line of sight. And Radial Disarm still remains just as effective when the so-called one-hit wonder that is the 4 button for many 'frames becomes nothing but a means with which to tickle your enemies. Edited August 25, 2013 by Asbyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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