(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX
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From someone who has all the rewards from conclave with over 100k kills I totally think it's time for the mode to die and for the rewards to be placed in other reward pools.
The rewards from conclave aren't that good and honestly every update the mode gets more and more broken.
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Totally agree, remove the kebab that is conclave
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6 hours ago, Godzilla853 said:
It’s because according to one of the developers during a devstreme they pulled the conclave team to work on melee 3.0 and then pulled them to work on railjack.
Doesnt explain why conclave has been on a downward spiral since chains of harrow.
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On 2020-05-20 at 5:36 PM, Tyreaus said:
Correct me if I'm wrong or if these things have been fixed, but I'm pretty sure new players are still thrown in with just a melee, weapons and Warframes still have to be acquired via arduous PvE (not great if the meta is leaning towards something like the Snipetron), higher-skilled players can and do idle at Recruit Conditioning (not great for the first experiences of new players), there's some OHKO combinations that go a little bit beyond mere weapon balancing (among a few other potentially buggy interactions)...
Most of that is aside from the topic at hand, but let's not be too hasty and say the topic at hand is the be-all and end-all of Conclave issues, yeah?
Youve listed very niche issues that very few people have an issue with. Changing recruit conditions isnt the same as weapon balancing.
The issues i was referring to was weapon balancing issues. In regards to snipetron being meta, i suggest you play more before you come to me saying this one weapon is somehow more of an issue than what this thread was about, melee being broken
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On 2020-05-20 at 3:45 PM, tobiparty said:
I don't think conclave's problems reside just on weapons balancing. The movement we have, abilities, mods, etc, everything needs to be looked at. Warframe can't and will not work as a pvp game in it's current state, but if you limit the movement and re-work some stuff, it can.
Still i think pvp should be removed from the game. It doesn't serve a purpose and no one is playing it.
The purpose is being able to go against an enemy that actually challenges us.
So can you give explicit examples here for me to reply to or are you just going to be content with a blanket statement here without any substance? Like whats wrong with the current movement in conclave? And whats wrong with the mods we currently have?
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1 hour ago, Firetempest said:
Saying to recruit players to play is not saying FaRm ReP. That's up to them. But the region population that actually plays on any platform can be very slim pickings in various time zones. It helps to know when those who play, actually do so. Don't be so defensive.
Totally what you were implying...
But relating to the op, if you want to find the best way to gain conclave standing then play it. If you cant get a game then switch region. Honestly, never had that issue.
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1 hour ago, Firetempest said:
Conclave is really a dead mode. Your best bet is to find a group in recruiting unfortunately. There are some diehard groups out there, just need to know when they play.
Rep farming challenges are a ban offence in warframe. Those "die hard players" as you call them just play the mode.
Cant say how dead or alive pc conclave is but ps4 conclave is alive and well and we dont take kindly to rep farmers.
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5 hours ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said:
Yeah I assumed they didn’t change the meta, haven’t played in awhile . & uhh wow , is it the most popular gun right now ?
Yes, the most popular melee is the mire. So please play the most recent update before making an outdated thread.
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1 hour ago, (PS4)CallMeTelos said:
maybe dont remove it but just nerf the slide
The airswipe would then be the issue.
1 hour ago, (PS4)CallMeTelos said:Staticor needs to be removed it overpowerd and unbalanced
Only with saryn. Saryn needs to be fixed or removed like ember and vauban.
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This most recent update has removed the penetration granted by the wolf sledge against melee players. Now only its aoe goes through. This to me shows they meant to have this blocking ability in conclave.
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5 hours ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said:
I think high burst damage weapons such as snipers and the opticor shouldn’t have to much ammo on spawn, maybe like 2-3 shots & then require players to pick up a new ammo resource that is timed, to replenish high burst damage weapons. Idk completely about this idea, just let me know what you think. This idea is based off how some weapons in destiny like shotguns/snipers don’t give you to much ammo on spawn. Like I said I’m not completely sold but I think it would reign in the meta weapons, but without taking away their potency. Also you might as well buff shotguns in conclave and make them part of these high burst damage weapons category
just to note that this thread is a couple months out of date and maybe you should pop into conclave on the current update to see the current issues and meta.
i dont see how the opticor and snipetron are even on the same level in your eyes. the snipetron has a way faster firerate and as of this update isnt even the most used sniper. that title goes to the rubico
second thing is that the zenith is a weapon that falls into that category as well since people jsut use the alt fire.
but the biggest thing that actually made me want to reply is this
this buffed enough for you mate? 800 total damage. that good enough?
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1 hour ago, TheGrimCorsair said:
As far as Conclave goes, it's just a spare time project of two folks at DE as it is. It's not gonna get any focus until there's downtime to work on it, and with a whole conga line of other far more important things to work on, well, maybe it'll get a look in a year or two.
Youre acting like conclave have issues other than weapon balancing. It just takes a single person to change those factors (which was done before chains of harrow) so again if you have nothing to contribute to the thread topic which is melee balancing in conclave then dont bother.
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On 2020-05-12 at 8:13 PM, (PS4)Stonezone37 said:
Didn’t the last time Digitals Extremes try to make a stand alone game, it tanked?
Yup, so chances of an actual pvp game are slim at best
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3 hours ago, tobiparty said:
who even plays conclave? lol. You and that one guy that got triggered cause of universal medallions.
I do not dislike pvp in games (i play destiny pvp and other fps) but warframe isn't made for it.
If you dont have anything to contribute to the thread then dont comment, this thread isnt about how many people play conclave or about medallions.
Im talking about melee being op in conclave
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3 hours ago, TheGrimCorsair said:
Very, very unpopular opinion I'm sure, but DE should end Conclave support as part of Warframe.
*waits 30 seconds*
Are you done with the tantrum? Good, let me continue.
Spin it off into a $20 stand alone PvP-only game with rudimentary botsupport, sell packs once a year that collect the weapons released in Warframe, and turn it loose to modders and folks who want to host their own servers and mutators/game modes.If you want something like that then by all means make a thread and see how many agree with.
However this thread is about the pvp we have. And i for one want that pvp balanced and fixed.
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5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:
*PvP in a PvE world: It is inherently more difficult to balance a player versus player mode, compared to a player versus environment mode. While employees at DE have given a formidable effort to balancing, there are still cases such as the telos boltlace or saryn and staticor.
It wasn't difficult for them to balance conclave up until chains of harrow, from that point on DE has let conclave degenerate by allowing their pve mechanical changes into conclave without proper testing.
A recent example is melee 3.0 breaking every melee weapon with a 100% block effectiveness. In reality DE has yet again left another mode to rot.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*The Conclave is a ghost town: for the most part, the conclave has no steady stream of traffic.
Thats due to the community giving up on DE ever balancing the mode ever again, toxic players who hate any pvp experience just shutting down any meantion of it and people who only play for standing gain.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*A game will not start unless there are two people: Waiting in a lobby with nothing to do might be testy on player patience.
Well what do most new players do when waiting on people to play with them on most of the starchart nodes that literally nobody plays? More than half of the star chart is in a similar place. Just take your phone out and wait for 5 minutes or less and if miraculously that doesnt work then check if youre actually in a public lobby.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*The Conclave is formidable for new players: There is a high learning curve for people entering the conclave.
Thats why recruit conditioning is a thing. Though that needs to kick players above mr 5 out by default in my opinion.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*Standing for the conclave is mainly earned from kills
As a result of these problems, it is very hard for new players to earn conclave standing, as what few players who show up are oftentimes veterans who wont give any good opportunity for new players to establish themselves in conclave or gain any real standing in the conclave. With these problems being considered, I thought of possible solutions:
*To draw in players, perhaps create NPC stand-ins players can skirmish with, for either low standing, or even just amusement.
Its a pvp mode. Killing players is the primary objective in 2/4 modes, the other two being a compromise mode nobody liked and the other being a capture the flag mode where killing people was barely necessary.
Its for that reason both of those modes are actually almost never played at all by players who like pvp. Only by those wanting to farm standing
Npcs in conclave would just make conclave like the index or rathum. If players want a free trial for what npcs will be like in conclave go play the index solo and see the disappointment presented.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*General standing aside from the conclave missions could award players more participation standing. While it would not make sense to overshadow the process of getting standing from kills, it would be good to give newer players an opportunity to gain more standing.
They already get participation standing in games, even a bonus amount if its their first game of the day. I personally see nothing wrong with rewarding players for doing the thing they play the mode for.
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*Perhaps non-conclave-specific rewards for lower ranks.
At the end of a match you can be awarded anything from 600 salvage to a forma blueprint. I dont see anything else new players will want or need
5 hours ago, Artimessheed said:*A possibility of making frames overall tankier, so as to limit the cases where a player can be whittled down or one-shot with over-preforming guns.
Not sure if you have played conclave recently but due to shield gating you can no longer be 1 shot (unless its a headshot) and even then if that bothers you then play nidus. Yes conclave has some broken weapons but if you want that to change start posting about those instead of trying to overhaul the entire mode.
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Small update was done reducing damage of the wold sledge aoe, melee in general is still broken
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24 minutes ago, Titania_Umbra said:
Simply change melee to what they are like 2 years before will fix everything
I would even prefer this shockingly
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Scarlett sphere has just landed on psr and melee is still broken.
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4 minutes ago, Uhkretor said:
I don't think he has that button.
Me neither. Guess thats what I get for typing a message at 1 in the morning
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New update on pc still not brining the much needed fixes to conclave melee issues
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9 hours ago, (PS4)ggh667124 said:
I only started using the Nikana heavily after the wolf sledge spam . I was actually using opticor most of the time . But honestly DE don’t care about conclave , all these bugs left after years . Still can’t believe they allowed the bramma in there .the bramma was an accident. what was a poor excuse of QA testing was hydroid panthera. its the job of a QA tester to test every weapon and fame combo to make sure everything worked as intended. the clearly didnt do that in conclave as a result we had hydroid panthera.
another poor excuse of QA testing was these melee changes and how they effect conclave,
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I would love to see a skins for warframes personally. Skins that light up if you complete the challenges like the syandana or even armour sets that have the same mechanic
But keeping to the thread. I would love to see a hind or argonak skin for conclave or even stradavar
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