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BadAimbot

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  1. It's not an exploit, since you don't gain anything. And I don't know how you can end up in a game without knowing the host will quit at 20 min, everyone specifies that and I never met a host that didn't. Maybe you just didn't pay attention, got mad that he quit and came here to post this ?

     

    So the first thing I say in my post is to think about the game rather than the player and then direct an assumption toward me? That's pretty dumb. The reason it's an exploit is because you can see the reward before finishing and decide you don't want it, which isn't possible with Exterminate, Capture or Mobile Defense. Plus, only the host loses everything. The only thing I'm mad at is the selfishness of some players.

  2. So much butthurt people haha :D  So much anger because for once game plays in your favor, lmao weird tennos out there.

     

    Do you want another so called *exploit* that everybody know about??

     

    Here you know why in t3 defense most people restart at wave 5, besides  that drops are bad after 20.

    If you finish or abort after wave 5, next time you enter you prevent same mod too appear at wave 5 next time in 3/out of 4 times.

     

    Some people care for the health of the game rather than themselves. And this exploit demonstrates why DE is always reluctant to introduce things that benefit honest people with the potential to exploit, such as a vote-kick system.

  3. Yeah... You're way exaggerating. Snowglobe stays up in T3 Defense until the heavy gunners come out.

    But in my opinion, if Frost wasn't supposed to be a defense frame and more of a damage frame, why have that ability in the first place? I almost wish they swapped it out with a different one or transformed it into something better, like if enemy fire was reflected from the snowglobe.

     

    I think he was supposed to be a hybrid. All of his abilities do have CC on them, and Snow Globe is the only one that doesn't deal damage. It's just that his damage isn't high enough.

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    No one insulted you, However I am curious as to the context of your "Broken Mechanics"

     

    As far as "don't Nerf" explanations:

     

    Snowglobe: functionality is silly at the moment, It has a Health bar and a duration amount, Its clear they tried to copy iron skin here with the health meter, however its also tied to duration. So getting it to be worth casting ends up making it expire quickly. You start getting Bombards or any heavy hitting enemy on the defense and survival runs post earth, and its pretty much pointless to have even at Max HP.

     

    Frosts Avalanche, The CC was a "Bug" but also the only reason to continue using Frost in any tower runs.

    CC was removed, nothing was done to bring it back to being comparable.

    As is it was a bad version of Rhino's Stomp Mechanic. However, since this isn't a purchasable prime, Its unlikely that will receive the same treatment.

     

    Rhino's Stomp does decent damage and has Huge CC potential. Even with it being negated by Fleeting its offering 3-4 seconds of stun CC with good damage.

    Zephyr's CC is actually pretty long, its not as targetable as Avalance or Stomp, but again, does Avalanches job better when applied properly.

    Mag's Crush, Same concept, Huge CC, decent damage, Incredible range.

    Nova's MP, Slows everything, impressive range, Explodes enemies, enemies take 200% damage increase while its active on them. Fueling a crowd wiping explosion chain

    Volt's AOE is also better than anything frost can toss out, Huge range, Stuns enemies for a few moments.

    Nyx also offers more CC and defense than a frost currently with Chaos, Pairs well with Loki or Nova.

    Loki's Radial Disarm removes the range component from enemies and stuns them briefly.

     

    Would keep going but you get the picture.

     

    Now lets compare to frost

    Weak shield that dies frequently on missions where a shield would be needed.

    Weak AOE that no longer CC's, Has subpar range, Damage isn't that great for its cost.

    Has a CC built into its 1 attack. But compared to the other options, why bring him?

     

    The argument I've seen is "well ur team shud stop damage 2 de globe" but thats pretty much the problem, if your team can stop the damage, there is no point in you even being there, they can replace frost with someone more suited to actually killing the mobs. By the time Globe is needed in that scenario, its currently useless anyways as the enemies in question will break it quickly.

     

    Also most runs will likely replace frost with someone useful, as his snowglobe was the only real reason people wanted him to begin with. I've only seen him get use lately in the Shield Tethra event, and that's still a "maybe" as Loki or Nyx can trivialize the need for a Frost.

     

    Honestly it feels like frost was nerfed due to the devs wanting to make the other frames weaker, not thinking about how they would end up gutting a frame to do so with.

     

    Was Snowglobe OP in its former state? Yes.

    Do I think it should go back that way? No

    I do believe it is possible to make him comparable to the other frames.

     

    TL;DR: The complaints about frost being weak are valid. 

     

    What I meant about broken mechanics was abilities and/or weapons that are so powerful that they act independently of enemy levels. Enemies getting tougher is a core part of the game and anything that lets you circumvent that is dangerous to future difficulty, and they should be fixed ASAP. An example of a broken mechanic that was fixed was Armor scaling in Damage 1.0.

     

    I'm not certain why having both HP and a duration is a problem. If Snow Globe is really going down that fast isn't the Duration irrelevant?

     

    I agree that Avalanche is pretty bad, but it always was. The CC wasn't very long and it was tied to your cast, so you couldn't personally do anything to the enemies while they were locked up (although Frost isn't the only 'Frame like this).

     

    Frost's CC is pretty bad in comparison to pretty much every other 'Frame, but Snow Globe is a very unique thing. However, he pretty much has nothing else as you said. Freeze isn't actually that bad and Ice Wave is usable but the mod spaces they take up are far too valuable to use them (a problem a lot of other 'Frames have too).

     

    'Frames centered around damage are as a whole not good right now (unless you're hilariously strong) and I've always thought that's what Frost was intended to be, but failed because his damage isn't good enough. I do think that Snow Globe could definitely use some tweaking and Avalanche's CC needs to come back (scaling from Duration this time).

     

    If it was intended to be placable CC, Being unable to shoot into it is counter intuitive, why have it if all its doing is a temporary slow and preventing you from killing the enemy. if used as you explain it, you've basically given then heavy hitters a bullet shield.

    Nova does this and actually kills them for it,

     

    I think it was to encourage people that staying inside was the right thing to do. Also, Vortex sucked in allies for a very long time, so they've had bad decisions before. And by place able CC I meant that it protects your team from taking damage, in the same way that CC prevents enemies from hurting you in the first place. It works in a different way to achieve the same goal.

  5. Your argument does nothing but halt discussion. "Broken mechanics" is a no true scotsman fallacy. You say that the frames you think are too powerful are "broken" and so anyone who wants to compare Frost to them is automatically wrong.

     

    I don't want discussion to be halted.

     

    Snow Globe compares quite closely to other CC abilities, with the main difference being that CC is placed on the enemy and Snow Globe is placed on a location. Snow Globe has the advantage of working independently of enemy location, whereas CC is a complete protection from any enemy caught under it, instead of just protecting those in the Globe.

     

    The main 2 reasons why Snow Globe needed a change is 1: Snow Globe and CC can be stacked together. Using Rhino Stomp and Chaos together doesn't accomplish much, but using Snow Globe in place of one of those gives you almost complete protection regardless of enemy levels. Reason 2: Snow Globe requires much less effort than CC. Once you plant Snow Globe that's it, you're done. With CC, you must find the enemies, which leaves you open to being shot while you find a good location to use your CC. When using both together, you are completely safe in Snow Globe and you can wait for the enemies to come to you and get close enough to hit as many as possible.

     

    A good argument against the nerf is that Snow Globe prevents tough enemies from killing you in a short amount of time. However, I would argue that the problem is that they're killing you that fast in the first place, and that any tough enemies requiring you to be in Snow Globe or die is not a good mechanic anyways. And yes, I'm aware that Trinity exists.

  6. You have no grounds to say they're broken.  The mechanics are working how the devs programmed them to.  Until we hear from them, there's no reason to expect that they're anything but working properly.

     

    First of all, that line of thinking does nothing but halt discussion. And even if DE intended it, it might be my opinion that it shouldn't be a part of the game, and I should be able to express that opinion without being insulted, and instead hear an actual argument as to why it should stay the way it is, instead of 'don't nerf' and expecting it to mean something.

     

    Secondly, they did nerf it, so there.

  7. In his current setup, with the exception of baby mode missions, there is little point in having him.  There are so many other frames that offer much more. The only thing he currently trumps is ash.

     

    I sometimes wonder if these people play the same game we do. If you're doing content that is hard enough for Snow Globe to be useless, then you nee to abuse broken mechanics to survive. You shouldn't complain that the broken mechanic got fixed.

  8. He's saying build Frost for offense, as if that solves the problem of the defense he is supposed to have being continually nerfed until people just find it unusable now.

     

    Now that Snow Globe scales with Power Strength, they're now the same thing.

  9. Cause entirely offensive is exactly what Frost is supposed to be. 

     

    Ice Wave and Avalanche were always offensive abilities. The CC Avalanche had was pathetic before Snow Globe changes. They should just re add the extra freeze duration and make it scale from Duration instead of Range. *@##$ing about how much they hate Frost is completely pointless.

     

    And can people stop saying that Snow Globe is now useless? It isn't, not even close.

  10. Fire rate for bows? I wasn't sure which mods affected charge speed. Glad to know that now.

    It's pretty hard to max out the damage mods. At rank 5 rare cores only add like 1/20th to the bar...and don't event get started on the cost for one whole level after that. Also I feel a bit dumb giving my multishot mod to my brother now...maybe I can get it back from him.

    By the way, my primary weapons are soma, cernos, paris, and grinlok. I think crit chance works good for these.

     

    Even on weapons that benefit greatly from Crit, it's usually better to put 2 elements on them first. Grineer and Corpus are extremely weak to a combo element and it drastically increases your damage against them (Grineer is Viral, Corpus is Magnetic). Physical damage types don't have anywhere near as much of an impact as combo elements do (although they still help plenty).

  11. I don't like her because her 1 skill outclasses every single damage-based Warframe in the game. Molecular Prime could be separated into 3 abilities to make a new Warframe and it would be good. That's not to mention that Nova has 3 other strong abilities (especially Antimatter Drop, which is very underrated), as well as being well-rounded in personal stats. Not only that, but because of the anti-nerf mentality of the playerbase in order to see other damage Warframes on her level they would need to become extremely powerful and it would trivialize the game, although this isn't a problem with Nova herself.

     

    I don't give a S#&$ about kill stealing. This is about the fact that picking a Warframe other that Nova for damage is just flat out a bad choice. It's unfair to everyone other than Nova players.

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    I doubt very seriously its some kinda conspiracy like this. However it is odd they have gutted almost all the tank capacity frost had and given him nothing in return.

     

    I think that they wanted him to be a Tank/DPS hybrid. The problem being that DPS 'Frames are all terrible because they don't scale hard enough (unless their damage is so damn high that they destroy everything until you get to endless modes).

  13. I hope this is sarcasm.

    If it's not... Get out.

    Edit 1: Rhino fanboys are not appreciated here.

     

    I play Rhino more often than any other Warframe. Not because he's my waifu but because he's my best 'Frame at doing random S#&$ without giving ****s (this wasn't censored, wtf?). I would not shed a tear if he got knocked down a peg, because he makes a joke out of most of the other defense-based Warframes.

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