TenGaugeBoson
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2 minutes ago, DarkFlameZealot said:
Again, as I said, there's calculators for the min/max stats and gauges where your riven's stats are in relativity to said min/max. After that, it's simply using your head and picking a price to sell it for or to buy it for. Even if it is a 'secret black market' you still have to use your head for these things considering data on every single riven combination isn't in the coveted and exalted(blade Kappa) Warframe Market website. If you see a riven with absurdly high stats and it's popular (Say a Strun with status, multishot and damage) then it's going to be worth a lot.
Just because average prices are unknown for unveiled riven mods doesn't dictate all this whining. Tbh you probably just are poor or got scammed out of plat because you were foolish; it's your fault if you get fekked in the arse for paying too much or selling too low. DE even states in Trade Chat, the very first message you see, that they don't moderate it at all. Trade at your discretion.
1st of all I am not whining.
2nd of all if you finding yourself rationalizing a flawed system you are likely benefiting from a flawed system.
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Here they all come.
"Its a free market dude, if you don't want it don't buy it. "
No
It is a blind market. It is a black box market. It is a secret market.
Without market data this is anarchy and leads us to the evils of human behavior.
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26 minutes ago, StinkyPygmy said:
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
It IS a free market. The market regulates itself. If someone is charging what is widely considered too much then they will be forced to lower their prices if they want a buyer. Really, the market sets the price. As much as you don't want to hear it, thats how it works and its a perfectly valid system. We don't need unnecessary regulation because there is no need for it. It won't improve things in any way.
Hek, you do realise that for the most part any capitalistic society runs on a free market in most industries, right?
I just find it petty you block people for charging prices you don't like. That's actually the only problem I can see here.
Like I said It is a blind market.
If I buy stock in nvidia I know the market data.
If I buy milk at one groceries store I can check the prices at another groceries store. they are listed.
The difference is between a blind market and a free and open market.
Do you remember where black box derivatives got us?
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Riven prices are &$%# ...
Be aware that every single person on trade chat is trying to rip you off.
Maybe intentionally or maybe unintentionally. They are though trying to rip you off.
It is the nature of a blind market. I know all you guys out there are going to say that it is a free market , supply and demand , you should try to make as much as you can, buyer beware and all the other excuses for poor human behavior.
It is a "Blind" market. you can ask some of your friends what they are charging and paying but your data pool is to small to be relevant.
I just had a guy try to sell me a torid riven with multishot and crit damage for 2000 plat. Obviously you don't buy it and put the guy on ignore. This isn't a rare occurrence though. It is the norm.
Maybe players don't know what they are doing and just randomly through out some price they would love to get. Or maybe they are just hoping to find some new player who didn't know what they were doing that they could rob. The problem is there is no way to know.
This is why we NEED market data.
It is bad enough rivens and kuva are a money grab and a lottery. They are also destroying the economy for normal players.
Please DE give us a weekly or even monthly print out of what things are being trading for.
The 3rd party sites have somewhat normalized other prices. give or take 25% or so.
But there is no site I am aware of doing anything with riven mods.
Even better remove the lottery aspect from rivens and make them based on effort and dedication.
Trade chat is just the worst example of human behavior.It very clearly exemplify s what is wrong with the world.
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Warframe is the only reason I even have windows on my pc.
When I am done playing warframe I will uninstall windows.
I would rather there was just support for linux so I could still play warframe later down the road.
Wine just doesn't work all the time.
I literally will not play a game anymore that doesn't have linux port.
This is how bad Microsoft has destroyed their name. They disgust me . And I was a fan boy 4 ever. Still have my dos 6.11 5 1/4 floppy's somewhere..
.Ya I am that old
The 1st pc I built was a 386 with cmos on floppy.It was top of the line boi.
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A solution , of many solutions would be to just let rivens have "feed-able stats" So when you farmed kuva you could but x amount into damage and x amount into multishot.
Then there would be actual reward for effort with the sense of forward progression. There would have to be caps or stats obviously. This would be a far better system than the one that exists. Well it would be better for players of the game.
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Yup and after seeing the community defend this absolute transparent cash grab+ the absolute dirt bags in trade chat trying to scam you in every trade+ all the other crap.
I am done.
I am sure I will be back . I sure have had fun up till recently.
the ps4 community was a better community maybe I will go back to ps4.
TenGauge OUT.
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Double resource weekend+ resource booster= What kuva should actually pay out.
Farmed a quarter million Kuva + Neglected family + got a quarter million worth of bad rolls=I might be done with this game.
Where is the fun in this? I am just not seeing it. To say it is disheartening does not do justice to the shafting I feel right now.
I loved this game before rivens, well before kuva to be specific.
Now it's like that girlfriend that gained weight ,is always nagging you and trying to get you to stop smoking weed and playing guitar with your friends.
I am starting to wonder Warframe....is this really worth it?
You just aren't fun anymore...? is it me? maybe it's me..
250,000 kuva and I think I kept the same stats I started with.
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20 hours ago, BiancaRoughfin said:
They already decreased the costs for Rerolling Riven Mods and capped the cost at 3500 around 9/10 Rerolls and so on. Farming Kuva is suppose to feel like work, its the grinding and dedication that help you get the best results even after you have already met the desired status on the mod, you can still keep on rolling to get something better.
Only things i think should change is have Rerolling grant slightly higher status each time its done but the bonus would scale down after a certain number of rerolls.
Regarding Kuva dropping in missions, i agree with it, maybe give enemies a small chance to drop from 10 to 25 Kuvas in the same rate Endo drops, also make it so the Kuva clouds spawn randomly in stages and just hover slowly in that stage segment it spawned in so players could just dash through it with their Tennos like in Kuva farming missions then the cloud would pop dropping between 100 and 150.
You actually said that a game that is supposed to be fun is really supposed to be like work.
I am not trying to have a go at you m8 , but you and I have very different ideas of what a game is supposed to be.
It has been well establish across the industry that grinding is the tick tock of the clock counting down to the end of your game.
Unless of coarse you are World of Warcraft for some odd reason.
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RIvens and Kuva ...
No part of this avenue of the game is fun. It feels like work. It is frustrating. It has made trade chat a living hell.
It is no secret that Rivens are a plat sink. With slots costing 60 plat and boosters costing 200 a month. At least make it fun.
We all LOVE Riven mods and what they do. With a booster it takes about 2 hours to farm the Kuva to roll a riven 3 times depending what rank it is. The R N G is bad though.
I have 46 rivens at the moment. It takes me at least 20 rolls to get something usable most of the time closer to 30. I do have bad luck but still....
Then there is only 1 way to get Kuva and the Nyx nerf made that even more of a chore.
Look....There are a lot of suggestion out there to ease this burden and some of them sound great.
Examples:
* Rivens desolve into kuva
* Endless missions reward Kuva
* Kuva Fortress could have Kuva caches
* Let us choose which stats on a riven to keep and which to roll.
* Just cap kuva roll cost at 1 missions reward.
There are many ideas out there. PLEASE pick one.
Seriously what this has done to trade chat is just Trumpish
Rivens are all overpriced or maybe not who knows. I do know most of us don't have 1000 plat to drop on a mod.
Then the feed is so hard to keep up with by the time you post something 50 posts have gone by.
Help DE
Please Help.
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Love Octavia...
Metronome is an awesome ability....but it is way to hard to pull off....there needs to be a better way to trigger or time the buffs. I love the way they trigger , but the timing is just to unforgiving.. You end up spending 30 seconds or more trying to get the buff. At that point it is no good.
It seems to be easier with different songs.Or mod set ups not sure....
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Totally like the frame.
She looks good, Moves good, and powers are good. e
She is easy to mod for atm. and fairly easy to play.
If i could magically change anything...
#1 Mallet I seem to keep want to use it like Vaubans Tesla, I keep wanting to through out multiples and have them stick to players an stuff.
#2 Resonator is cool It seems to follow me well throughout missions.Again I keep trying to through out multiples.It would be nice if we could refresh the timing on this thing but that would mess with the damage output. I am guessing.
#3 Metronome is a freakishly powerful ability, That is ridiculously hard to get the timing down on.This is my favorite power that she has but I cannot figure out the timing.
the wiki said just do one of the pre req's when the lights hit the center but it feels off for me .I am not sure if it is keyboard lag or if the timing is just that unforgiving but I do know that I want to be able to execute these buffs better than the 15% of the time I am attempting them. I would rather be able to time them audibly so I wouldn't have to be looking at my feet and could be looking at the things trying to kill me. (I would just like it to be easier to execute the buffs)
#4 AMP It would be awesome if this were an aura that emanated from Octavia, but it is fine the way it is too.
All in All
Everything wants to work together and I think it does, not as well a Nidus but really close.The only real gripe I have personally is the timing on Metronome.If that become a viable power it will make her my favorite frame. At the moment though i can hardly pull off any of the buffs. I know I am hitting less than 20% more probably 10%.
Manda chord
I was waiting for this. This is uber cool. I bought all the sound packs and have spent as much time messing with this as I have leveling the frame.
It is simple to use, The UI is good no problems at all.
Yes of coarse I would want more options but I understand the difficulty of providing people with more options than what you have. IE minor keys and notes.
I keep gravitating towards trying to make riffs that sound like old Black Sabbath and White Zombie...but it just aint gonna happen with the toolset we have got....That's ok though
I am guessing in the future we will get different keys and scales to work with.
ps . Still hate limbo....At least in a squad. he isn't so bad solo.
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Holy Crap DE, There was a lot of stuff in this update!
I am not fan boying or anything but thanks!
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HOLY CRAP!!!!!
That is one gargantuan update!
Also Gargatua would be a good name for a warframe.
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I can get behind this. I like this frame but ...ya .
I love the directional dive bomb idea a lot. that would be pretty awesome.
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MMMM charts and Graphs . Oh so lovely charts and graphs...
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Octavia's Anthem?
Do we get Bard Frame?!
Oh my goodness happy days I have 20 nitain extracts saved up hope I wont need more.
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I am never going to build this weapon....Getting bored with the game too.
But I gave DE a couple hundred dollars over the years on ps4 and PC and had fun so....
Might stick around for bard frame who knows
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Plat grab = money grab = economics.
They have to make money to pay their bills just like everyone else.
Finding a balance though is hard because people are hardwired to be greedy.
The question is, when are people being greedy and when are they trying to be fair and make a living?
Easiest way to test this in ourselves is to are we justifying our actions?
If you find yourself having to hide something or justify something, you probably shouldn't be doing that thing.
I try to spend an average of $5 a month on this game.So far I have spent about $200 between ps4 and PC....which is way to much for a game...but ...well ...well i got nothing after the but...ya I have spent to much on this game.
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FFS DE
I know you can't make everyone happy.
But you are getting better at making everyone mad.
Remember Carrier?
Remember the contention, then when you gave us what we wanted how it went away?
Who wants to play a game that isn't fun?
It is rewarding to overcome difficult enemies sure, but not when you have to farm them. Then it becomes work and not fun. and annoying and crappy and why dont I just go play another game?...like chess.
After getting so annoyed farming kuva last night I literally started playing chess on steam....And it was so much more fun than playing Nyx.
I love this game. Itis the only game I play anymore.
This game is the only reason I have windows 10. I would rather be running Linux.
The day I leave this game I will reformat my hard drive and load up Ubuntu and won't be able to come back.
If you are gonna keep nerfing the fun. please give us Linux support. whichever is easiest for you of coarse.
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I hope Hydriod .I am one of maybe 4 people who love him. Hands down the best looking frame IMHO
As for a rework on him I would hope for something to do with his #2 and #3 synergizing.
Making the #2 wave not get hung up on objects , maybe having it turn corners ,and instead of knocking people down pulling them and piling them up.
And the #3 being like a whirlpool drowning vortex.
Maybe even make #4 a summoned pet or pets or possibly adding testicles to a melee weapon or becoming a summoned trident that stole loots and stuff.
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I am never building that weapon out of protest.
Mountain clan mr22 1000 plus hours
the Silly statement "It's raining mutagen in the derelict" and the backpedaling that some clans had already grinded out the research was insulting.
Hema research is literally my only complaint with this entire game.
Everything else about this game IMHO is top of the line.
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WHY!!!
WHY DE!
Why do insist on continually improving this game!
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Most Traded least used mod= Ammo Drum
Riven Rip off Artists
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The riven market perfectly compares to isp's and cable companies litigiously manipulating legislation in order to siphon more more from society.
It is the same mentality and same flawed mechanisms just on a bigger scale.