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Upon doing more research, this bug seems to be more than just Lull. This makes sense because when I'm killing enemies asleep by Lull i'm generally going for headshots. Yet despite them being asleep from Lull and completely unalerted, they are not providing stealth kill multipliers

https://imgur.com/a/yJbCDxe You can see here the enemy was completely unalerted + I hit him with Lull and waited for him to be asleep. i instantly killed him and my stealth affinity bonus got reset.

I have enemies sitting in Lull slep still partially alerted (triangle with dot in the middle, not solid red) some enemies I have in Lull sleep with a fully empty triangle not giving me stealth affinity buff stacks This issue began with dante. i otherwise play Ivara in these mission, always stealthed, always have Hush/Suppress on alarming weapons, and I've have no issues in the past even with some of the lowest base damage weapons in the game. after the update even using powerful incarnon weapons that kill in 1 hit the enemies become alerted and fail to give stealth affinity buffs or reset the stacks i had

Yeah idk. oberon isnt a paladin to me. his ability names are paladin themed and thats it. Oberon has an identity crisis.

Looking at styanax again, He has his soldier helmet and shoulderguards and a breastplate and gauntlets. his #2 summons his shield to strip enemy defenses, his #1 and #4 uses his spears. all of that but a with a more visually distinctly "paladin" aesthetic. Similar to this. It doesn't have to be that over the top and flashy obviously, but designed with that general aesthetic.

but oberon doesn't look like an armored knight. he still just looks like a space ninja. his deluxe skin leans into the druidic theme with the tree branches and crap. but if he did get a skin that leaned more into the paladin theme that'd be cool. you also mentioned a deluxe skin that changes the effect of his ability. do deluxe skins to that? i dont actually own any deluxe skins

pretty much Oberons entire kit of abilities, but not nature themed in their animation. as i mentioned before his Hallowed Ground just sprouts flowers on the floor. all of his abilities fit the paladin bill, but his lore and his animations are obviously more druidic/nature based than anything else, as well as his actual physical design so a warframe that has a pretty heavily armor appearance (not quite like rhino whos just a beefcake, but having a more knightly appearance. as a side note, not even excalibur scratches this itch. he's also just another space ninja in his little jumpsuit), has abilities themed after Paladin lore in both name and animation design Styanax does come close to what I'm looking for in terms of gameplay, but his physical design and abilities are still just roman/greek soldier at the end of the day. I have done the best I can to fashionframe Styanax to a paladin but I dont have a ton of attachments for him to really kit him out. the best I was able to do was color him and his energy and throw on repala syandana. he doesnt have a ton of variety offered in his skins yet as he's fairly new, and i'm still not entirely sold on his new skin coming up.

yeah, idk if you read my other posts but i mention styanax and how he feels infinitely closer to a paladin to me than Oberon. I only recently got styanax and he quickly became my main. His skills are paladin-adjacent (in terms of name and animation) and his gameplay loop hit most of the paladin nails on the head for me. that said having an actual frame designed from the ground up to be a paladin would be nice (again, im not familiar with dnd specifically, moreso what youd get from a warcraft/final fantasy/BDO/general MMORPG paladin/templar/crusader) at the end of the day, Styanax's design style *is* just a greek/roman soldier. as close as it comes to being a full paladin, it's not quite there. the last new warframe we got is a literal brick of concrete. we can get a dedicated paladin

maybe not so much healing support as healing support is fairly weak in warframe. youre either doing low level missions and dont need heals or youre fighting enemies that if a bullet connects to red health bar youre dead. theres not much in between thats why i did immediately vibe with styanax because he does really good damage, generates overguard, can not only fully armor strip but also shield strip as well, and regens energy for whole party. and as much as i love the playstyle, i would still prefer it if the warframes actual abilities were also paladin themed. like oberons hallowed ground just..sprouts flowers.

im not familiar with dnd at all so my experience with paladin is from popular video games. WoW, final fantasy, adjacnt "paladin-like" classes(templar, crusader, etc. something like harrow is too far in the "priest" aesthetic). mostly working with either holy, lighting, or in some cases fire damage. obviously wf doesnt have holy damage, so maybe can do lightning themed abilities and set energy color to a holy yellow. heavy armor clad. works either with a giant 2h sword/hammer or a shield (again, where styanax fits the mold of paladin better than oberon, spears + shield, grants squad overguard with augment, grants energy recovery) horse, can take it or leave it, probably doesnt work as well in warframe so id rather leave it (see: merulina/k-drives/kaithe) i recognize the paladin as a supporter but also be able to hold their own in combat as well. wow is my most played mmo, and ive always been a retribution paladin, which is the damage dealer specialization (it actually kinda irks me when a game has a paladin type class but straight up do not allow them to be a dps role, like ffxiv) as long a the warframe is designed to be visually kinda paladin-y, the rest can be heavily substituted via the modding system and helminth and stuff like that i only just recently got styanax and due to how closely he parallels a paladin theme he quickly became my new main. if he had a bit more of a holy aesthetic to him it'd be my 10/10

i know we technially ave oberon but he really doesnt fit the bill.. we have so many frames that are dense in their chosen aesthetic. Mesa is a gunslinger, Hydroid is a pirate, Styanax is a greek/roman soldier, etc and the best we have for paladin is..oberon. his "hallowed ground" sprouts some flowers on the ground. as it stands right now styanax fills the roll of paladin better than oberon does.

Watched entire stream, sound on, in window, didnt even get first forma stuck at 30% through it