Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The first 10 waves of it just such a mind numbingly boring waste of time, I can hardly get myself to play them anymore. IMO they should all just have 10 waves being harder with each Tier. Just had to get that off my chest cause I'm currently about to die of boredom in one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_Case001 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well, if it's that boring, don't play it. Don't know what else to tell you. I like it as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legionprobatio Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Why? can't get past the first 10 waves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryp2Nite Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Pretty much my feelings about all Defense Missions. First waves are just a breeding bull tranquilizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Why? can't get past the first 10 waves? no because the first 10 waves are so boring that sometimes id rather bash my skull in than to sit through them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 That is a bit harsh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 no because the first 10 waves are so boring that sometimes id rather bash my skull in than to sit through them Protip. End them as quickly as possible. They don't take that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Protip. End them as quickly as possible. They don't take that long. I guess you enjoy wasting your time on them i guess? Of course you can do them as fast as possible, but that doesn't make them in any way more enjoyable. They are just dead space that exists for no other reason than to suck the fun out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldgrep Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Play as a nuke class. Your either unneeded, if there's multiple of you, or very active if your the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldgrep Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I guess you enjoy wasting your time on them i guess? Of course you can do them as fast as possible, but that doesn't make them in any way more enjoyable. They are just dead space that exists for no other reason than to suck the fun out of the game. The whole game is centered around grinding. Don't say one part of the game is sucking the fun out of the whole game. It's an amazing game, just executed poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Olympian Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Then don't play it. It's really fun with actually challenging rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grascen Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 First 10 waves give you enough easy drops to safely last against the rest of the waves. Without those first 10 easier waves, T3 defense becomes a lot harder for groups that aren't the most optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Then don't play it. It's really fun with actually challenging rounds. yea the problem is that the first 10 waves are neither challenging nor fun. First 10 waves give you enough easy drops to safely last against the rest of the waves. Without those first 10 easier waves, T3 defense becomes a lot harder for groups that aren't the most optimal. which would be better anyways, its way to easy as it stands. Edited September 6, 2013 by Wellwisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) I guess you enjoy wasting your time on them i guess? Of course you can do them as fast as possible, but that doesn't make them in any way more enjoyable. They are just dead space that exists for no other reason than to suck the fun out of the game. Well in that case take everyone's suggestions with a grain of salt and be like that. Seriously if you waste a lot of time in the first 10 waves then you should stop playing defense. It takes only a few minutes to get through, if you cannot get through a few minutes of nuking a few enemies to get to the "hardcore" waves then you should honestly go play something else. You could try nightmare defense or hell join some void defense games if its too easy the first 10 waves. T3 void go on there is a lot of people who offer to bring people into those games in the recruiting section. Edited September 6, 2013 by Palkora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grascen Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 which would be better anyways, its way to easy as it stands. For groups with Frost and Vauban. What about the other groups that, while harder, still currently have a fighting chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bro-dog Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 20 is a boring slog, start that S#&$ ten waves in. better yet, add a button to have all the waves come out at once. F*** it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well in that case take everyone's suggestions with a grain of salt and be like that. Seriously if you waste a lot of time in the first 10 waves then you should stop playing defense. It takes only a few minutes to get through, if you cannot get through a few minutes of nuking a few enemies to get to the "hardcore" waves then you should honestly go play something else. You could try nightmare defense or hell join some void defense games if its too easy the first 10 waves. T3 void go on there is a lot of people who offer to bring people into those games in the recruiting section. Im talking specifically about T3 Void Defense missions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Im talking specifically about T3 Void Defense missions... In that case try an unorganized team instead of the usual setup which makes it easy as hell. T3 void is usually only 10 - 15 waves anyway. So you are pretty much asking for something which is already there. Just t3 orokin void defense is gonna be easy with a good team setup. Edited September 6, 2013 by Palkora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxcloudxox Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The first 10 waves of it just such a mind numbingly boring waste of time, I can hardly get myself to play them anymore. IMO they should all just have 10 waves being harder with each Tier. Just had to get that off my chest cause I'm currently about to die of boredom in one... yeah i get so bored globing as frost, from waves ten to fourteen i basically surf the web and cast a globe every now and then, obviously i ask the teammates first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuinetheo Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If you're this thirsty for difficulty, solo them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If you're this thirsty for difficulty, solo them. This, you will get your difficulty OP. And if you end up saying you can solo t3 void defense I want video proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellwisher Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 In that case try an unorganized team instead of the usual setup which makes it easy as hell. T3 void is usually only 10 - 15 waves anyway. So you are pretty much asking for something which is already there. Just t3 orokin void defense is gonna be easy with a good team setup. What are you talking about, T3 Void Defenses are always 20 Waves, and the first ten are a cakewalk regardless of the team setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 What are you talking about, T3 Void Defenses are always 20 Waves, and the first ten are a cakewalk regardless of the team setup. Mine were 10 - 15. And again, unorganized team. No setups like using frosts and nukers just go with whatever. Or solo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VER1 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I still like defense but I will not be one of those people who stay in it for crazy amount of waves for bragging rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstic Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 No idea why people are arguing with OP about telling him to go solo T3 defense for the difficulty. It's like they didn't read the OP at all. Lmao. Yes, some people need to do T3 Defense to get the item parts they want. When I was farming for my Orthos Prime, T3 D was so boring. I even ran it with optimal groups and did some of them in <20m which includes the timer in between. It was a cake walk with the right set up. The whole point of changing it to 10 waves is to save time. Difficulty increase is just to compensate for less waves. I would actually enjoy going straight to lvl80+ enemies without a surplus of energy orbs. That's just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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