Cinderain Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 21.5 days to craft all the masses required for all the new infested stuff. Like, I know DE wants us to not consume content quite as fast as we do, but artificially slowing us down with crafting times like this is ridiculous. wish they would realize difficulty is a better slow down wall, then grinding... give us harder, faster enemies that are not massive bullet sponges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 no he just doesn't own a dojo and builds tons of rooms, then formas weapons, and warframes all day... 200+ people in our clan, we had everything built before the re-pricing update. After that we pruned back, rebuilt dojo and still have an excess of materials (30+ forma in the vault) Plus I'm still not sure now to contribute to decorations or whatever (derp) I also don't have the playtime to max out guns/frames. Finally, I have had a lot of luck in voids etc. Getting forma every 2-3 runs in t2 and 3. Also reaper-blades and Lat prime receivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striyela Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I just hope that this thing is worth the materials... DE pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaNep Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Why are all you guys so forma-poor? u jelleh? On topic, It'd probably still be worth it just for the mini-acrid the sentinel comes with. Because a good number of us already spent our forma on the equipment we want to make stronger and on making more Clan related stuff. And that much resources just so you'd have a free pull and an extra Acrid to melt enemies with? Yeah, I'd rather equip an Acrid myself while being a Mag. The Carrier was more worth its price than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladiko2 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It better hit harder than the Acrid for that price. not even harder... it better have TRIPLE DAMAGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kanade__ Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I haven't felt this angry at a game company since director Han Jae Ho of Vindictus. For context's sake, Vindictus is dead because of him. It's the NA team that ruined Vindictus, whether they've been replaced with the KR team yet I wouldn't know, I haven't touched that game in months but still have it on my computer in hopes that it will make the much needed 180 degree turn. As for the Djin and Synaspe, let's just wait and see who will decide to fork over those resources and then tell us at their own expense if these weapons are worth it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblivionNecroninja Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 ...why does a Sentinel that's only good for a very few warframes (since it's special ability is pulling enemies in, only the tanky or melee-oriented frames are really gonna get much use out of Djinn) cost 3 forma and 5 masses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Because a good number of us already spent our forma on the equipment we want to make stronger and on making more Clan related stuff. And that much resources just so you'd have a free pull and an extra Acrid to melt enemies with? Yeah, I'd rather equip an Acrid myself while being a Mag. The Carrier was more worth its price than this. Still prefer being able to drop aggro with Shade. Makes abilities with long-cast times much less suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueQuail Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Corpus are next. Get to work on those fieldron samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkkterror Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Corpus are next. Get to work on those fieldron samples. Yea, start crafting now. It'll probably take 2 months to fully craft all the fieldron/detonite needed for the next wave of clan items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 All that just for a Sentinel's Acrid and a Sentinel's Pull? Dammit DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihiler Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 They need to reduce the cost on all materials and add mutagen back into the solar map. This is crazy. Moving mutagen just makes you have to grind for your grind, just so you can grind. Better believe I'm farming up a few hundred more detonite/filedrons for when they eventually move THOSE behind a grind wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblivionNecroninja Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 They need to reduce the cost on all materials and add mutagen back into the solar map. This is crazy. Moving mutagen just makes you have to grind for your grind, just so you can grind. Better believe I'm farming up a few hundred more detonite/filedrons for when they eventually move THOSE behind a grind wall. I'm not inherently opposed to DE's decision to move Mutagens (although I think it's silly that Eris doesn't have them since it's infested and going to stay that way). It could have worked out, had they decided to make infested clantech cost less Mutagens than Corpus and Grineer clantech costs Fieldron and Detonite. But they didn't. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihiler Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I'm not inherently opposed to DE's decision to move Mutagens (although I think it's silly that Eris doesn't have them since it's infested and going to stay that way). It could have worked out, had they decided to make infested clantech cost less Mutagens than Corpus and Grineer clantech costs Fieldron and Detonite. But they didn't. >.< Yeah, they moved them and dropped ~28 mutagen masses worth of manufacturing on us. If i'm lucky, checking every single barrel and locker in a level, i get maybe 6 samples per derelict key. Then just to build the keys it usually takes me 3 or 4 missions just to get the navs, ignoring the time for the other materials needed for the masses and keys. I love you Scott, but why do you make us suffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkkterror Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I love you Scott, but why do you make us suffer? Great, now someone has to post up the latest Scott meme pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I... just don't know how to react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkkterror Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I... just don't know how to react. With overwhelming joy over the "content" you have available to consume. Although, that content is just staring at your Foundry list for a few weeks watching Mutagen Masses build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracorya Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) It's the NA team that ruined Vindictus, whether they've been replaced with the KR team yet I wouldn't know, I haven't touched that game in months but still have it on my computer in hopes that it will make the much needed 180 degree turn. As for the Djin and Synaspe, let's just wait and see who will decide to fork over those resources and then tell us at their own expense if these weapons are worth it or not. People have already built the Synaspe, its considered fairly good. Edited September 20, 2013 by Dracorya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) It's the NA team that ruined Vindictus No. Well, not in a sense that you can completely blame them, anyway. The NA team wouldn't have fallen into ruin if it weren't for the fact that Korea's changes were horribly unpopular for both the Korean and North American playerbases, but the North American playerbase even more so. This led to a shortage of income for the VindictusNA team, leading to many, many layoffs, causing the team's output of fixes and updates to lessen drastically and resort to the money-grubbing tactics such as "Buy this box for $2.50 for a <1% chance at obtaining the only exclusive Christmas event item available this year!". But it's not those tactics I'm referring to. I'm referring to the changes that Han Jae Ho made to the game-- namely things like the enhancement of the Enchantment System (which, for those who do not know, basically added a crapton of stats to weapons and armor with a ~50% failure rate at higher levels. A failure generally has a very high chance of the already-difficult-to-obtain item (Frankly, the Synapse is easier to obtain) being destroyed entirely, and the failures can be prevented using an absurd amount of real money), Season 2 battles (which, at higher levels, were near impossible to beat without having heavily Enhanced and Enchanted weapons and armor, as armor that wasn't heavily upgraded would result in players being killed within one or two hits by the bosses, and weapons couldn't do as much as tickle the bosses without heavy Enchanting and Enhancing (to the point where an unfunded player could theoretically have a sandbag situation on a boss for an entire hour and still not beat it). Basically, "power creep" came into play, increasing the gap between the powerful weapons and the less-powerful ones by an absolutely ludicrous amount, and making it so that the majority of players would find it near impossible to not just solo the bosses, but even enter parties without being booted instantly if they weren't extremely lucky with their upgrades or didn't pool about thirty bucks on each piece of their equipment. ____________________________________________________________________________________ TL;DR: I feel like I'm going off on a tangent a bit here, but note that all of these little "tidbits" that HJH added were met with extremely negative reception from both the Korean and North American players, partly because they promoted a pay-to-win mentality, but mostly because, much like Warframe, it was following the path of stat-based gameplay as opposed to skill-based gameplay, with the prior being stupidly difficult to obtain. Needless to say, the feedback was completely ignored, and the game is much emptier in Korea than it was before, and is a complete ghost town in North America. Edited September 20, 2013 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stVillain Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 OD survival missions drop 20 to 30 mutagen samples in 30 minutes of game time. been doing that the last few nights and i already have 150 mutagen samples. Also, t2 speed runs net me about 100k to 150k. Don't need keys just sit in recruitment chat. I laugh at all your tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSrevolution Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 3 forma for a sentinel? Come on. These forma costs for the new infested tech are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEEkAy2k9 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 i guess the next update, update 11 will be named something like warfarm: age of crafting-bars this is really getting off the track DE, do something against your current course or i will promise you, you will loose a lot of dedicated players, including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 3 forma for a sentinel? Come on. These forma costs for the new infested tech are ridiculous. 3 forma, and 15 mutagen masses... Still say I would rather fight the hardest boss in video gaming history with Warframe controls, then get all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueQuail Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 -Snip- Pretty sure Vindcitus Is failing because Nexon has super S#&$ty servers and doesn't fix the lag for months on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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