Lyker Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) The new Corrupted Mods have, at least for me opened a door for "caster builds". Therefor I hereby request a new primary weapon, which in a sense is a caster scepter. There is no attack with it. What should happens when you hold the trigger is that you get Energy regain ticks. Also the scepter should have stats ability increases like +20% power, -10% cost etc. I can totally see a Nyx build with this. Using melee and absorb for damage and stop sprinting once in a while in between packs to hold the trigger on the primary scepter to gain energy. And if we could go really wild with it: It should have passive energy regen and you could be able to slot 1 ability that will be used with fire button. Edited November 10, 2013 by Lyker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What could possibly go wrong, i wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneticfate Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 No the energy regain is kind of pointless since we already have plenty of ways to get some. I also do not consider this a game with magic in it. Even if some of the stuff appears to be magic. A scepter would just look weird and be pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarties Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 No the energy regain is kind of pointless since we already have plenty of ways to get some. I also do not consider this a game with magic in it. Even if some of the stuff appears to be magic. A scepter would just look weird and be pretty useless. Like Ninjas using rocket launchers. But those still got in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyker Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) No the energy regain is kind of pointless since we already have plenty of ways to get some. I also do not consider this a game with magic in it. Even if some of the stuff appears to be magic. A scepter would just look weird and be pretty useless. Im pretty sure the art team could create something that would not look like something from Harry Potter or LoTR Update: googled scepters, took me 1 sec to find: http://www.blendswap.com/files/images/2013/08/blend_69890/olivier236_untitled_medium_83fa7c2bf8fbdc647531a9e15f9c56811a83f10d.jpg You can get a Warframe scifi feel to it. Edited November 10, 2013 by Lyker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sni7ch Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) It seems like it would disrupt too many in game mechanics. So, no. Everything is already balanced, and adding a scepter that would totally disrupt how energy is gained would be a game breaking item. Imagine a Nova spamming M. Prime. That is bad. Very annoying and bad. You can cast and shoot guns so be happy with that. Edited November 10, 2013 by Sni7ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Update: googled scepters, took me 1 sec to find: you too? what i found: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ep.yimg.com/ay/rhinestonejewelry/12624-double-star-scepter-4.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.rhinestonejewelry.com/scepters.html&h=648&w=396&sz=35&tbnid=nS5NlFrCCt-BpM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=62&zoom=1&usg=__--V0GS07cE6KTUgypHHBfMniUMA=&docid=5OCQZS35seXpmM&sa=X&ei=ONZ_UtbbBovqkQee84GQDQ&ved=0CFAQ9QEwBw 10/10 do want. would look "fabulous" on my rhino. Edited November 10, 2013 by alchemistjkt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhar14 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I thought you were going to suggest a new melee weapon that shoots fireballs or something instead of having melee attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflame362 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 You don't have to imagine it because of flow+streamline+fleeting expertise. Imagine a Nova spamming M. Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyker Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) you too? what i found: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ep.yimg.com/ay/rhinestonejewelry/12624-double-star-scepter-4.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.rhinestonejewelry.com/scepters.html&h=648&w=396&sz=35&tbnid=nS5NlFrCCt-BpM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=62&zoom=1&usg=__--V0GS07cE6KTUgypHHBfMniUMA=&docid=5OCQZS35seXpmM&sa=X&ei=ONZ_UtbbBovqkQee84GQDQ&ved=0CFAQ9QEwBw 10/10 do want. would look "fabulous" on my rhino. You sir are to funny. I just read your "about me" text and here you are digging your grave again by being rude instead of constructive. I'm all good with ppl not liking the idea. Was just throwing it out there. Forum is for discussion right? And this wasn't received well so lets all move on. =) Edited November 10, 2013 by Lyker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I just read your "about me" text and here you are digging your grave again by being rude instead of constructive. how in the glittery pink rhino hell am i being rude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarties Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 how in the glittery pink rhino hell am i being rude? I was thinking the same thing darling. Don't mind him he is jealous of how fabulous a lovely Saryn like yourself can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sni7ch Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 You don't have to imagine it because of flow+streamline+fleeting expertise. Please 4 maxed energy siphons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Please 4 maxed energy siphons. people use other aura mods? lol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacgnomancer Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 would be sooner using this then a wand... in which i still odnt think DE would get us a sword like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubedOobleck Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The first problem I see is that the scepter as you describe it doesn't really do something new: There is no attack with it. What should happens when you hold the trigger is that you get Energy regain ticks. Also the scepter should have stats ability increases like +20% power, -10% cost etc. A very similar Energy gain is possible through the team energy restore and buffing powers is something mods are for. The other problem I see is that the warframe powers aren't really designed to be used as often as you would be able to with an infinite, free and conveniently instant energy source. In short it seems game breaking to me :\ Although I got to admit the concept of a scepter has piqued my interest and just gave me this idea: what if the scepter was a primary weapon and on it you could equip any 2 warframe power mods as well as the mods to buff them? You'd activate these 2 extra powers with left and right click and they would consume energy normally, however you can't put the same copy of a mod on the scepter and the warframe unless you have multiple copies (just like you can't put a mod on your weapon on the sentinel's weapon) and the mods in the scepter and warframe don't affect each other's powers. Probably wouldn't be too OP because you still need the energy to use those power, but it would allow a player to do combos that usually require more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyker Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) What you guys are forgetting I think is that you cannot sprint and shoot etc.So all rules for shooting should still apply and I am talking about ticks maybe 1.5-2 energy sec.@ CubedOobleckThank you for getting involved in a discussion and I like your idea too. I just felt another door was opened with the corrupted mods and I was just brainstorming around that. Edited November 10, 2013 by Lyker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The wand idea is nifty, if not a bit peculiar. I actually think the idea of being unable to shoot while using it for a regen boost is rather interesting for balance. So far as the people going "oh no, spam", you don't even need flow with fleeting+streamline. In fact, I can't imagine any reason you ever would. This would actually be rather balanced, particularly if it doesn't work when you swap to your secondary. Considering how many people rely on click-to-kill, I don't think the suggestion of letting a warframe use another frame's powers is good at all--leaves way too many balance issues, and you can quickly surmise the combo most people would run with(m.prime+iron skin). Would be insanely over-powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRise Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What you guys are forgetting I think is that you cannot sprint and shoot etc. So all rules for shooting should still apply and I am talking about ticks maybe 1.5-2 energy sec. @ CubedOobleck Thank you for getting involved in a discussion and I like your idea too. I just felt another door was opened with the corrupted mods and I was just brainstorming around that. with the right build an ultimate ability cost 25 energy, keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscendantWyvern Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 instead of a scepter...why not something like an "Orokin generator" Something that is carried much like a datamass or something, but it permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Sorry but i'm against weapons that modify stats such as Energy, etc... we already have enough skill spamming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostUnitVII Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 eh... I kindof dont see a point to this... I do... but... Ninja's and Support mages just dont mix well... Maybe if you had a bard type... where it weaken's the enemy's with debuffs, similar to Nova, just without the explosions. Though playing music in space would also be... kindof weird, cuz nobody would hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furyion Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 rather a mace..with ball and chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostUnitVII Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) rather a mace..with ball and chain for some reason that line... reminded me of boarderlands 2... "he ate one of my cars once, yeh the whole car, like... with a fork." Edited November 11, 2013 by GhostUnitVII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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