Dealing damage to Eidolons shields with Propa scaffold is extremely buggy during water phase.

[Commander843]

As the title states, there is a serious issue with how propa deals damage to eidolon shields as the eidolons come out of the water. This issue arose with Duviri.

In short, propa doesn't deal remotely near the damage it should/has in the past, but seemingly only when the eidolon is coming out of the water (someone correct me if I am wrong).

For context, a very popular and normal strategy for Eidolon hunters to break an eidolons shields while its leaving the water, is to propa the ground. Depending on whether you are in the right spot or not, the propa may or may not one shot, but the spots are well known, and generally very forgiving with the only exceptions being spawn 2 (close left) and spawn 3 (mid) on hydrolyst only, where people would have to use use a med station or mech to detonate the propa above the ground. In the case they did detonate it off the ground, it would one shot.

Currently, however, there is an issue with propa's damage calculation, which could be related to volt shield, propa's line-of-sight issues, eidolon hitbox issues, or other things I forgot about or am unaware of. It should also be noted that even with the new combat intrinsic allowing for 25% more operator damage, nothing changes. Realistically, the damage buff is only 2-13% because it is diluted by other damage buffs available to the operator/drifter in the origin system, and is far from being able to overcome the significant decrease in damage on water phase eidolons. (It also may be worth noting that Raplak functions and deals damage like normal on water phase)

This damage issue is on all platforms, and all spawns, without exception.

 

See Reference 1 for line of sight issues

Reference 2 for Volt shield issues

Reference 3 for Damage issues

 

Reference 1:
         0 Damage dealt to Gantulyst in pre-update 1 shot spot: https://streamable.com/r3s98i
         The line of sight aspect of propa being referenced: https://streamable.com/tsd2sz
         Propa detonating on warframe causes no knock back at all: https://streamable.com/f17t5v

Reference 2:
         Volt Shield not properly protecting from stagger and knock back: https://streamable.com/4p2l5u

Reference 3:
         Old one shot spot on Long spawn (Spawn 4) takes 3 propa (one being orange crit): https://streamable.com/5ys44a

         Close Left (Spawn 2) Gantulyst at old one shot spot: 

         Close Right (Spawn 1) Hydrolyst at old one shot spot: 

         Mid Spawn (Spawn 3) (orange crit) Gantulyst at old one shot spot: 

         Edit: Additions from comments:

         Long Spawn (Spawn 4) not taking any damage at all, then suddenly hitting: https://streamable.com/izafpv

         Long Spawn (Spawn 4) not taking any damage at all in old one shot spot: https://streamable.com/8yaswr

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I will try to post more clips and such as I get them, but please feel free to post your own clips (labeled pre or post patch) below

[BlueCatReal]

propa no deal damage like before, no able kil edilons

[Commander843]

Here is also the damage to Gantulyst shields on close right (spawn 1) with a mech/medtower detonation in the old one shot spot WITH drifter combat intrinsics. 

[Nayl.]

hope DE can see this 🙏

[-Yoghurt]

hope DE can see this 🙏

[-Lead]

🙏

[45KLARK45]

hope DE can see this 🙏

[--lazyboo--]

🐈🙏

[ioadh]

hope DE can see this 🙏

[akashi.-]

😄 не фиксите это пж 

[Domyko]

hope DE can see this 🙏

[ceVna]

🙏 hope DE can see this post.

[Densmore]

:)

[-Lead]

https://streamable.com/8yaswr
 

where damage

[Markov]

1 hour ago, -Lead said:

https://streamable.com/8yaswr
 

where damage

https://streamable.com/izafpv A very similar example of the same bug.

[Commander843]

5 hours ago, -Lead said:

https://streamable.com/8yaswr
 

where damage

 

4 hours ago, Markov said:

https://streamable.com/izafpv A very similar example of the same bug.

Added both to main post

[Commander843]

If anyone has more clips, or screen shots, please post them here so the dev's have enough material to look at when they eventually get past the Duviri stuff.

[Commander843]

Bumping post to first page*

[Nayl.]

is it hard to check players report from de staff 

 

[Commander843]

Bumping to first page again...

[Markov]

Yet another example of dealing 0 damage five times in a row, then dealing 52,240 damage (the full amount of the watershield): https://streamable.com/szad0a