Umbra AI Mode not/inconsistently using ammo

[Bricks]

For some reason Umbra's AI mode firing does not use ammo (at least sometimes) with various weapons. Tried with the Trumna and Phage. not using any ammo, while Penta maybe sometimes did?

Edited September 11, 2023 by Bricks

[IDystopiaI]

Seems to be bugged both as a client and as a host. Tested using Burton and Furis. 

[Bricks]

10 hours ago, IDystopiaI said:

Seems to be bugged both as a client and as a host. Tested using Burton and Furis. 

My guess was ammo being spent only updated on reload and this has something to do with very large ammo magazines allowing for Umbra's AI form to rarely reload, but if it's happening on weapons with smaller magazines too, perhaps it's something else?

Edited September 11, 2023 by Bricks

[IDystopiaI]

4 hours ago, Bricks said:

My guess was ammo being spent only updated on reload and this has something to do with very large ammo magazines allowing for Umbra's AI form to rarely reload, but if it's happening on weapons with smaller magazines too, perhaps it's something else?

I think right, that's exactly how ammo consumption works for Wukong's clone. The same can be done with Umbra and swapping between warframe and operator once he runs out of ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFlTGbpy32Y

I also did some quick testing with the Vectis and it was consistently draining ammo.  

Both Wukong and Umbra have the same increased Fire-Rate bug with the Kuva Ogris as well, I'm unsure if regular specters also have increased Fire-Rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FkFLU1q_c

[Bricks]

5 hours ago, IDystopiaI said:

I think right, that's exactly how ammo consumption works for Wukong's clone. The same can be done with Umbra and swapping between warframe and operator once he runs out of ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFlTGbpy32Y

I also did some quick testing with the Vectis and it was consistently draining ammo.  

Both Wukong and Umbra have the same increased Fire-Rate bug with the Kuva Ogris as well, I'm unsure if regular specters also have increased Fire-Rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FkFLU1q_c

I wonder if this thing of mostly draining ammo on weapons that consistently reload, but not really on ones that don't is a bug/unintended quirk or if they were just trying to nerf stuff like the Kuva Bramma more heavily but not all the other stuff...?