sqallLion Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I dont like this nerf to Frost. Snow globe mainly. I was in a corpus lvl 10-15 and put snow globe out to try it now with just 4 enermies shooting at it. It was down in secons with my mods on it last for 45 seconds i still had 35 seconds left on it when it went down. Snow globes is about the only usefull skill for Frost has the other 3 suck. People say change his mods make him do more damage with skills using Focus and stuff but why when we have Ember to Nuke evrything. Some poeple say make him tank why whould i make Frost like a Tank when you have Rhino with Iron Skin makes no sence. Snow globe as well is nothing like Iron Skin for those people saying it is. Iron skin can take much more punishment. another thing you have give the Grineer Snow globe guess what they can walk with Snow globe around them !!!! and dose not seem to wear off by shooting at it lest the one i was shooting. I just dont get why in this PVE based game you feel the need to nerf so many Frames just beef up the other Frames the PVP that is in the game is a secondry Focus its not open world you have to go into a lobby to PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTribute Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Make snowglobe's projectiles into it slowed down by strength, duration as before, and stretch as is. Now you can avoid grineer bullets with frost's bubble without giving him uncertain god mode. Not as good as before, but not as terribad as is now. Also, at least 1.0 speed for Frost please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I dont like this nerf to Frost. Snow globe mainly. I was in a corpus lvl 10-15 and put snow globe out to try it now with just 4 enermies shooting at it. It was down in secons with my mods on it last for 45 seconds i still had 35 seconds left on it when it went down. Snow globes is about the only usefull skill for Frost has the other 3 suck. People say change his mods make him do more damage with skills using Focus and stuff but why when we have Ember to Nuke evrything. Some poeple say make him tank why whould i make Frost like a Tank when you have Rhino with Iron Skin makes no sence. Snow globe as well is nothing like Iron Skin for those people saying it is. Iron skin can take much more punishment. another thing you have give the Grineer Snow globe guess what they can walk with Snow globe around them !!!! and dose not seem to wear off by shooting at it lest the one i was shooting. I just dont get why in this PVE based game you feel the need to nerf so many Frames just beef up the other Frames the PVP that is in the game is a secondry Focus its not open world you have to go into a lobby to PVP. Some people don't have Ember Some people don't have Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus730 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 You probaly don't use his other skills much, he is still fantastic for chockpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Make snowglobe's projectiles into it slowed down by strength, duration as before, and stretch as is. Now you can avoid grineer bullets with frost's bubble without giving him uncertain god mode. Not as good as before, but not as terribad as is now. Also, at least 1.0 speed for Frost please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMAGGOTxX Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 In all honesty, he is advertised as a offensive and defensive tank. He needs the offensive too. Now, the nerf really was bad, but he still needs damaging abilites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasonsofclarity Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Uh, I don't know what the hell you guys are complaining about. I just did a 35 round T2 Defense as a Frost. The Snowglobe was never destroyed by enemy fire, it always timed out. And I was able to use the new Ice Wave and Ice Blast to massive effect (Ice Blast kills Crewmen in one shot on rounds 1-15 with Focus). Seriously, this is meant to be a team game on the higher difficulties. Play with a team that knows what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoGicMoTion Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Uh, I don't know what the hell you guys are complaining about. I just did a 35 round T2 Defense as a Frost. The Snowglobe was never destroyed by enemy fire, it always timed out. And I was able to use the new Ice Wave and Ice Blast to massive effect (Ice Blast kills Crewmen in one shot on rounds 1-15 with Focus). Seriously, this is meant to be a team game on the higher difficulties. Play with a team that knows what they're doing. Go on t3. Get a level 65 heavy gunner shoot your snow globe and see how long it last. I give it .5 second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nope.All the new skills are good to make a fun game with friends. How about the Defenses? is no more. DE want delete it (i suppose). No more Frost to Defenses = No more Defenses (because the new tipe of missions "Interception") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Make snowglobe's projectiles into it slowed down by strength, duration as before, and stretch as is. Now you can avoid grineer bullets with frost's bubble without giving him uncertain god mode. Not as good as before, but not as terribad as is now. Also, at least 1.0 speed for Frost please. Cute. Nice try. Still Frost sucks (their existence does not make sense now), because another warframes is more fast, do more damage, and the most important thing "another can be more fast and a best option now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nope. All the new skills are good to make a fun game with friends. How about the Defenses? is no more. DE want delete it (i suppose). No more Frost to Defenses = No more Defenses (because the new tipe of missions "Interception") Yes cause having 4 people stand at a cap is such a good way to spend time instead of grouping up and everyone getting a chance at kills. The spawn rates for Interception suck as is, hopeful a spawn fix will come in. Frost is still viable in defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes cause having 4 people stand at a cap is such a good way to spend time instead of grouping up and everyone getting a chance at kills. The spawn rates for Interception suck as is, hopeful a spawn fix will come in. Frost is still viable in defense. You're trying to say viable in LOW Defenses. That is boring (no more farms now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) You're trying to say viable in LOW Defenses. That is boring (no more farms now) No in high tiers. Do you even globe bro ? Edit. By high tier I guess I should say 30lvl-50lvl enemies. Edited February 7, 2014 by Gravefire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriKlein Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Took Frost for a stroll. Was pathetic. Back in mothballs for the rest of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 No in high tiers. Do you even globe bro ? Edit. By high tier I guess I should say 30lvl-50lvl enemies. I know you want mean. I was playing void DEF 3 today with a friend (Frost). In wave 15 with lv 30-40 enemies (i guess lv 35 is more exactly the correct number). The Frost only was cast and cast the Snow Globe, after a few seconds the Snow Globe was melted quickly. Seeing that we decided to finish that Defense in the wave 15. That Frost maybe not have the full potencial of Snow Globe (i mean with full mods). But still 15 was the limit in this situation. What is the limit now? wave 15, 20, 30? PS: I have a Frost and i do not see a good future in a High Defenses even with full potencial. 3500 HP is a low low base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I know you want mean. I was playing void DEF 3 today with a friend (Frost). In wave 15 with lv 30-40 enemies (i guess lv 35 is more exactly the correct number). The Frost only was cast and cast the Snow Globe, after a few seconds the Snow Globe was melted quickly. Seeing that we decided to finish that Defense in the wave 15. That Frost maybe not have the full potencial of Snow Globe (i mean with full mods). But still 15 was the limit in this situation. What is the limit now? wave 15, 20, 30? PS: I have a Frost and i do not see a good future in a High Defenses even with full potencial. 3500 HP is a low low base. Here's the ting a lot of people need to understand about this nerf and how to go about it. Globe is going to be constantly change till its perfect set up correctly. Now there's a few builds you can go into to make globe very viable. For example I like the stacking globe method now (did it a while back before the nerf). I'm doing videos on how to counter balance for high waves to allow frost players easier wave clears while keeping the pod alive. I have a hundreds of hours played on just on frost alone and anyone who knows me knows its the only frame I play. The limit is what you choose it to be. I don't agree with the way the nerf hit which is why I do have a problem with it. Again lack of communication threw the development team throwing something in at the last second not a good idea for the player base. Work around it just like all the Vauban players did. Edited February 7, 2014 by Gravefire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Here's the ting a lot of people need to understand about this nerf and how to go about it. Globe is going to be constantly change till its perfect set up correctly. Now there's a few builds you can go into to make globe very viable. For example I like the stacking globe method now (did it a while back before the nerf). I'm doing videos on how to counter balance for high waves to allow frost players easier wave clears while keeping the pod alive. I have a hundreds of hours played on just on frost alone and anyone who knows me knows its the only frame I play. The limit is what you choose it to be. I don't agree with the way the nerf hit which is why I do have a problem with it. Again lack of communication threw the development team throwing something in at the last second not a good idea for the player base. Work around it just like all the Vauban players did. You are right. A) "Globe is going to be constantly change till its perfect set up correctly" >>>> I want believe that, really, is my only hope to my Frost. B) "The limit is what you choose it to be" >>>> Really the limit is the number of a full mods you want put in the Frost (and that power have a limit too). But i think you mean "the talent of any player are their own limit" or some like that. I agree with that. C) "Again lack of communication threw the development team throwing something in at the last second not a good idea for the player base" >>>> You are right. This is the consequence of the poor comunication DE-Players. A few hours Before release the update they make a Megathread where we could put our opinion saying "we hear your opinions..." (some like that). But just was a fraud, the are not read those players who are saying the bad idea of a Snow Globe Nerf. They thought anyway release the update without any "last change". We must see the good part of anything. But the bad part (Snow Globe nerf) is so annoying. Why not a 3 good skills + the old same Snow Globe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicocat Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I haven't tried Frost post-nerf, but pre-nerf I only used him on defense missions when I wanted a guaranteed, lazy win. Just throw up a snowglobe and look at a different monitor. Snowglobe was overpowered, admit it. Is it good now? I don't know, I haven't tried it. Will it be balanced if everyone finds it to be useless? Yep. Remember when Rhino's iron skin was power-nerfed into the floor, then buffed slowly back up until he's the most used frame in the game solely because of it? Just be patient and give feedback. CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, not "OMG FROST SUX F*** YOU DE". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychus Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Cute. Nice try. Still Frost sucks (their existence does not make sense now), because another warframes is more fast, do more damage, and the most important thing "another can be more fast and a best option now" LET'S SELL ALL OUR WARFRAMES AND PLAY RHINO AND NOVA EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE VARIETY SUCKS AND ONLY THE BEST MUST BE USED. NO ALTERNATIVES OR FUN ALLOWED HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 NO FUN ALLOWED HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr3vi3R Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 NO FUN ALLOWED HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychus Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 NO FUN ALLOWED HERE. NO FUN ALLOWED HERE. You two.... *sniffle* you make a man proud. Damn proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnFusterCluck Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We must see the good part of anything. But the bad part (Snow Globe nerf) is so annoying. Why not a 3 good skills + the old same Snow Globe? Because Snow Globe permitted a certain "God mode" on Defense missions, making other frames such as Vauban and Nyx obsolete. Personally, I don't see any problem with the nerf. It now makes Frost's Snow Globe a little bit more circumstantial. Sitting tight on your &#! in a high level Defense is no fun; now we actually have a challenge. It's pretty much what we've been asking for, right? "Game's too boring DE, I'ma get off Warframe until the next update" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePresident777 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 LET'S SELL ALL OUR WARFRAMES AND PLAY RHINO AND NOVA EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE VARIETY SUCKS AND ONLY THE BEST MUST BE USED. NO ALTERNATIVES OR FUN ALLOWED HERE. How many flavors of S#&$ sandwich do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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